Poker Forum

Over 1,231,000 Posts!

Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password
  >    > 

How do you avoid this play?

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
iceman76
Old 09-30-2004, 03:16 AM     Post subject: How do you avoid this play? #1 (permalink)  

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 6
iceman76
Hi! I just had this happen to me and I would like to hear some opinions as to avoid this from happening in the future.

No limit holdem small stakes tourney style.5 people in the game, all about even stacked.

Im big blind with j-8 off, 2 people limp in , I check.Flop is 8-J-8.
First bettor bets, next foldsI raise double the bet.
Next card is Ad....no flush possibilities.
He bets, I call trying to slow play my boat. I figure he had A-K or some high pair with the 8's.
Last card 2 off, so no straight or flush possible.

He goes all in....


Ok so I called and saw his pair of jacks for the jacks full to beat my 8's full.

What can I do to avoid losing all my chips in this type of situation? And those of you who say lay it down, in this situation do you think you can lay down a full house? Please post comments since I want to learn from this if thats possible.Thanks!
Reply With Quote
Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
Autocratic
Old 09-30-2004, 03:19 AM #2 (permalink)  

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 70
Autocratic
Send a message via AIM to Autocratic
When you think you have the nuts and are beaten from the beginning, it's very difficult to know what to do. I would have pinned him on an 8, notably since he didn't raise pre-flop. I'm not saying you played perfectly, but that no matter what you did you probably were screwed there. He was gonna go all-in, and you were going to call.
Reply With Quote
stuck
Old 09-30-2004, 03:22 AM #3 (permalink)  
stuck's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 586
stuck
I don't think there's anything you could've done to avoid that. If JJ hadn't limped, I'd say fold PF, but that's the best flop you could have hoped for with that hand.

I certainly would have been laughing when he pushed into me. And then cried when I saw he had the bigger full house.
If I had a hammer
I'd drop in the morning
I'd drop in the evening..
 
Reply With Quote
AllinLife
Old 09-30-2004, 03:31 AM #4 (permalink)  
AllinLife's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 530
AllinLife
simply put, you can't lay a flopped fullhouse... 8-)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Allinlife [ Kc Ad ]
DrBoner folds.
CPHILPOT calls [$0.5].
Allinlife raises [$2].
MrDioon folds.
rcynick folds.
HardBizz folds.
flyingfinn folds.
Dr_Jellyfngr folds.
Hueber89 calls [$1.5].
CPHILPOT folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Kd, Jh ]
Hueber89 checks.
Allinlife bets [$3].
Hueber89 calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
Hueber89 checks.
Allinlife bets [$5].
Hueber89 calls [$5].
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
Hueber89 checks.
Allinlife is all-In.
Hueber89 calls [$14].
Hueber89 shows [ Jd, Ks ] a full house, Jacks full of aces.
Allinlife shows [ Kc, Ad ] a full house, Aces full of kings.
Allinlifewins $46.35 from the main pot with a full
"Is there any chance I'm going to lay this 9-high baby down? That's really not my style."
- Gus Hansen
 
Reply With Quote
stevedonel
Old 09-30-2004, 02:38 PM #5 (permalink)  
stevedonel's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Vegas
Posts: 617
stevedonel
Send a message via AIM to stevedonel
Hard to fold. With smaller boats, you need to be careful especially out of position.
Is that guy still part of the forum??
 
Reply With Quote
dalecooper
Old 09-30-2004, 03:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
dalecooper's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,107
dalecooper
I always say: you raise until he re-raises, then you check or call until you lose. That's it. You just can't fold hands like that. Maybe if you know your opponent really, really well and get the biggest tell of all time off of him... otherwise, you just try to minimize the damage if you think it might be coming.
Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2004, 03:51 PM #7 (permalink)  
Guest

Posts: n/a
{This post has been removed}
Reply With Quote
Krapp
Old 09-30-2004, 03:57 PM #8 (permalink)  
Flush

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 313
Krapp
I might have called the flop and bet big on the turn/river. Not raise the flop, call the turn... Anyways, those hands are destined to lose all your money....
Reply With Quote
allLiving
Old 10-01-2004, 03:31 PM #9 (permalink)  
allLiving's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 799
allLiving
Send a message via AIM to allLiving
You're going to have to pay him off, especially since he limped his PP... Very very rarely can you get a read good enough to pin a person on a higher boat.

PocketFives - allLiving
Pokerstars - [595-ESCAPE]
 
Reply With Quote
drmcboy
Old 10-01-2004, 07:13 PM #10 (permalink)  
drmcboy's Avatar
DrButtInski
Administrator

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 9,565
drmcboy has disabled reputation
My guess is you had sucked out a few hands before after making a bad call and the gods were punishing you.

I think you MUST get your money in with this hand... imagine if you'd kicked it in and he'd shown AA or something? You'd never be able to forget it.

To me this is a lot like picking up KK when someone has AA... not a bad beat obviously but still, there's nothing magical you can do to avoid it, nor should you feel any shame IMHO busting out.
Reply With Quote
lonnie
Old 10-01-2004, 09:59 PM #11 (permalink)  
lonnie's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 923
lonnie
Not even Phil "brilliant laydown" Hellmuth coulda put that hand down. Nothin you can do about it.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
PokerJanitor Old 02-09-2012, 07:28 PM    Bally Launches Remote Gaming Server
Bally Technologies Incorporated has announced the launch of their Remote Gaming Server, a product designed to allow easy access to their stable of online and mobile games.

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:02 AM.


FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com
Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.