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bigstock2001

09-15-2008, 05:41 PM Post subject: How awful did I play this and do you think i am beat

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Hero is bistock. HH for sportsbook is not that clear. I am not exactly where this hand went bad but the outcome was not Good. Please advice.

Hand #1623012015000428: Paris 12015
Seat 1: Nitu*** (9.90 in chips)
Seat 2: RK 0*** (16.69 in chips)
Seat 3: JESM*** (10.64 in chips)
Seat 4: rits*** (5.80 in chips)
Seat 5: bigstock (11.77 in chips)
Seat 6: bopp*** (3.05 in chips)
Seat 8: tony*** (10.55 in chips)
Seat 9: lwds*** (11.00 in chips)
bopp***: posts small blind $0.05
tony***: posts big blind $0.10
Dealt to bigstock [ Ac Ah ]
lwds***: folds
Nitu***: folds
RK 0***: raises to $0.30
JESM***: folds
rits***: folds
bigstock: raises to $0.60
bopp***: folds
tony***: folds
RK 0***: calls
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Ts 8c 6c ]
RK 0***: checks
bigstock: bets $1
RK 0***: calls
# # # TURN # # # [ 9c ]
RK 0***: checks
bigstock: bets $1
RK 0***: raises to $3.18
bigstock: calls
&&& RIVER &&& [ Jd ]
RK 0***: is all in 11.9100
bigstock: folds
RK 0***: returns uncalled bet $11.91
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RK 0***: mucks

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Stacks

09-15-2008, 05:56 PM

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You shouldn't be minraising preflop. It gives villains too good of odds to call. From now on when you have a hand you want to raise an open with preflop (3bet) raise to either 3x or 4x the original raise.

Monty3038

09-15-2008, 06:01 PM Post subject: Re: How awful did I play this and do you think i am beat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigstock2001

Thoughts from me are this... you only min raised his initial open bet. I would recommend 3x or 4x that bet. Not a huge difference... others might disagree.

Next on the flop two clubs come out. He may be on a flush or straight draw at this point based on the cards on the flop. Time to slow down and maybe re-evaluate... you bet in the area of 3/4 pot, that tells him you have a hand and he should evaluate... he did and called you. Thus he could be on a flush draw, straight draw, may have a set, etc. He could also be bluffing.

Turn comes as a club. You bet out a small bet, offering him odds to call. He also may still have his flush or may have completed his straight here. The thing is now you have a flush draw. You have potentially 11 outs here, I think... I may have to re-read that to verify. So with one card left to go you have a 22% chance of improving. He bet $3.18 and if I recall the pot has around 4.00 in it. You need to call with $2.18. So it is roughly 2 to win 7.

You have a 22% chance of hitting a card that makes you improve, which you might not even need to improve to win the hand at this point... 28% to 22% makes it a close one. I think in this case I'm calling to see what the river brings...

You called, Jack comes out, he shoves. Here is my thought pattern. We had flush in his range, we had set in his range, high pair was also there though I didn't mention it. He also could have a straight. I think in this case though, without a read, I personally put him on JJ in his hand. Either that or a flush. I fold.

Again, i am not the best player here or anywhere for that matter, someone more skilled can make a better explanation that I will

09-16-2008, 02:12 AM

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I fold the turn. If he doesn't have the flush he has the straight. The thing is that he has likely blocked two of your flush outs if he has the flush. If you call the turn it's only to see if you get a flush.

I would actually check that turn card since it's super-ugly and I know I might need to improve to win.

animal_chin

09-16-2008, 04:28 AM Post subject: Re: How awful did I play this and do you think i am beat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty3038

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigstock2001

Thoughts from me are this... you only min raised his initial open bet. I would recommend 3x or 4x that bet. Not a huge difference... others might disagree.

Raising more makes a super big difference.

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donkbee

09-16-2008, 06:01 PM Post subject: Re: How awful did I play this and do you think i am beat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigstock2001

HH for sportsbook is not that clear.

Try FTR's converter to make it easier to read:
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Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($9.90)
MP1 ($16.69)
MP2 ($10.64)
CO ($5.80)
Hero (Button) ($11.77)
SB ($3.05)
BB ($10.55)
UTG ($11)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, A

2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.35) 10

, 8

, 6

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1

Turn: ($3.35) 9

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 raises to $3.18, Hero calls $2.18

River: ($9.71) J

(2 players)
MP1 bets $11.91 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $9.71

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bigstock2001

09-17-2008, 07:59 AM

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Thanks court. I will use this

Don

bigstock2001

09-17-2008, 08:38 AM

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Thanks for the help to all of you that have looked at my hh. I have been working on these things and things seam to be going better. SO FAR...lol

Thanks
Don

JinxT4

09-17-2008, 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

I fold the turn. If he doesn't have the flush he has the straight.

I disagree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

I would actually check that turn card since it's super-ugly and I know I might need to improve to win.

So you don't put any overpairs in villain's range?

Also, if you're going to bet the turn, make a real bet, not 1/3 pot.

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