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Keith
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05-07-2010, 02:24 AM
Post subject: Hope for the noobs
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Full House
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15-16 months ago , i decided to stop freerolling as a hobby and start and learn how to play cash games. I got involved in the BC, posted hands , took part in discussions,started a blog , and was told when my thoughts were wrong.
I want to thank everyone who has helped me so far and tonight broke through a bit of a milestone. So take heart , get involved and the frustrations that you are experiencing you will see that everyone else has been there before you.Learn , put the work in and the results will come.

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jyms
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Move up where they respect your raises. NH.
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spoonitnow
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How many fpps
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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rpm
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nice work, Keith. good motivation story too. can't wait to see 1k in my cashier (well 1k that i didnt deposit straight up). what bankroll rules did you use grinding up to 1k? ie at what bankroll amount did you move up to
5nl
10nl
25nl (i assume you play 25nl. if not you should by the looks of things)
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kmind
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Move your $1041.63 to "In Play" imo
ps congrats!
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Roller
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Keith_MM
15-16 months ago , i decided to stop freerolling as a hobby and start and learn how to play cash games. I got involved in the BC, posted hands , took part in discussions,started a blog , and was told when my thoughts were wrong.
I want to thank everyone who has helped me so far and tonight broke through a bit of a milestone. So take heart , get involved and the frustrations that you are experiencing you will see that everyone else has been there before you.Learn , put the work in and the results will come.
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Fantastic Progress.
Congrats and keep moving as Bankroll permits.
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Originally Posted by jyms
Move up where they respect your raises. NH.
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WOW !!!
If that isn't the truth.
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daven
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first 1k is the hardest. Nice work dude - definitely a better return on your time than freerolling
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PlayToWin
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Heads-up for rollz, imo.
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Explain...what I do for a living without saying "I make monies in da 600 enels by pwnin' tha donk bitches". Instead I say "I'm a online financial redistribution broker". - Sasquach991
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rpm
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fold
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Hoopy
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Full House
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Well done Keith!
Time for the 1BI shot at 5/10.
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EasyPoker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayToWin
Heads-up for rollz, imo.
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lmao
HU4ROLLZ
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[20:19] <Zill4> god
[20:19] <Zill4> u guys
[20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
[20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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WillburForce
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$1k is the 1st milestone. now onwards to $10k. gogogogogogog
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hai faive!
It's true what they say: the first 1k are the hardest.
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EasyPoker
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well done keith
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[20:19] <Zill4> god
[20:19] <Zill4> u guys
[20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
[20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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PlayToWin
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Full House
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Originally Posted by EasyPoker
lmao
HU4ROLLZ
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Ah shit, I did it wrong. GG Keith.
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Explain...what I do for a living without saying "I make monies in da 600 enels by pwnin' tha donk bitches". Instead I say "I'm a online financial redistribution broker". - Sasquach991
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Sasquach991
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nice.
I owe my success to finally learning _____________.
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"Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
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settecba
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Nice photoshop. It almost looks real.
Ps: Congrats man and GL
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Originally Posted by ISF
Getting good at poker is like that scene in the matrix where Neo suddenly sees that everyone is just a bunch of structured numbers and then he starts bending those numbers in really weird ways.
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Keith
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Originally Posted by rpm
nice work, Keith. good motivation story too. can't wait to see 1k in my cashier (well 1k that i didnt deposit straight up). what bankroll rules did you use grinding up to 1k? ie at what bankroll amount did you move up to
5nl
10nl
25nl (i assume you play 25nl. if not you should by the looks of things)
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well originally got an invite to 2 freerolls ,1 each day over a weekend, came second in the first and 27th in the second .....something like a 5k starting field in each one which put 92$ in the account. then stars did a christmas freeroll promo for 1st depositors , so withdrew 50$ from william hilland used that to do the deposit. Had the cash in the account so started looking for free poker videos and found FTR.
should say that stated playing poker with some friends from MicroMart magazine's forum when wife was in hospital for a month before and after birth of our first child so it was something to do after visiting finished each night. Mother in law wasn't happy and i promised not to put any money onto the sites.....got into freerolls and started to do better then cash , then cash regularly then had some decent rolls across several sites.
And the cash game adventure began and found all my self taught stuff for play money and freerolls were way off the mark for Cash poker.Started playing 2nl on 1 table with $140 dropped to about $120 abd got sweated by Erpel turned my game around and quickly got to 150$ .Moved to 5nl and continued up to $250 where i moved to 10NL .
Did well at 10nl to start and somehow my game turned to shit around the time I hit $600 and i was getting beats left right and centre and crashed back to probably $350. this was around my busy time of the year workwise so didnt play much last july august.SWeptember Full tilt did take 2 promo and had some winnings on there so ground that up playing FR and learning how to play it with help from free video's from www.crushonlineholdem.com.
in the autumn moved back to 10nl and still was frustratedwas still really swingy with my results , but as the result of some sweats and video reviews of my play nailed the problem with my play. Although i was agressive preflop , I turned weak passive post flop and had gone too far with the folding to agression. Generally i find it easier to hit the fold button now, value betting better, hand reading better, getting thin value etc
tried a shot at 25nl at $650 and quickly dropped down to $537 mainly from bad beats but as i had dropped so quick i dropped back down to 10NL even though i hadn't gone through my stop loss at 500$ I felt i was too close to it to play not scared so ground up at 10NL.What I had seen of the play /players at 25NL though i was confident that i would be able to beat it . Had a final table in a UK freeroll promo for $67 , (hand review by codered in three videos at grinderschool) and I was pretty soon back up to $750 and rolled for a proper shot at 25nL. Moved up around march26th i think and last month was basically break even. Was getting used to playing 25nl and then stars changed the tables and I struggled for a bit getting used to the changes.this month i feel like i'm getting settled with the changes and to be brutally honest i went on a massive heater last night playing 5 tables of 25-50bb 25NL tables.Since i did well i had got about 250$ on the tables last night and fish just kept sitting down and gave me there money.
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Dragon Slayer
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Straight
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Ya but how much did you LOSE?
Jk nh
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kiwiMark
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Originally Posted by settecba
Nice photoshop. It almost looks real.
Ps: Congrats man and GL
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The font for his hometown and email address is the bit that gives it away for me. I've seen a lot of shoops in my time.
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EasyPoker
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Full House
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implementing a stop loss is vital
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[20:19] <Zill4> god
[20:19] <Zill4> u guys
[20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
[20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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Santo2True
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Straight
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i dunno, looks real to me..
good job man, gives me inspiration
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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OhioRounder
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Straight
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I has Photoshop too, see... lol
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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congrats. The bad news is 25k->26k is the hardest. but why are you mad at your location?
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Santo2True
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Straight
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hmmmm... suspect Keith_MM Poker Player Ranking and Stats at PokerStars
good day though May 6th
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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Keith
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Santo2True
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what an idiot........did you actually read the posts i made........your PTR link does not include tournament winnings, uk poker league winnings and poker league bonus for coming third, stellar bonus's , fpp bonus , april fools day bonus , the discounted new year bonus......they all add up . Nor does it account for only covering ring game stats since september 09.
oh and check out this ptr link
Keith_MM Poker Player Report Card at PokerStars
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Santo2True
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Straight
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was more of a joke bro cause everyone was throwing out the photo chops..
chillax.. gg
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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BooG690
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Lynch Keith
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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Keith
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Santo2True
was more of a joke bro cause everyone was throwing out the photo chops..
chillax.. gg
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lets just say that i didn't find it funny ...especially from
Santo2True Poker Player Ranking and Stats at PokerStars
whereas bufu's
Lynch Keith
is funny on so many levels
1. true to form its inappropriate
2. its in the wrong place
3. the day is closed
4. hes a wolf.
5. besides point 4. hes also a c_nt.
6. i'm a villager indirectly responsible for getting rid of his archrival JKDS and liable to get eaten as a result.
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Full House
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Good stuff Keith, congrats. Always nice to hear a success story.
I've taken a week or so off poker after getting burnt moving up to 10nl, but this has remotivated me, well this and speaking to a pro at a weeding at the weekend who plays nosebleed stakes.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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Santo2True
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Keith_MM
lets just say that i didn't find it funny
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Santo2True
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Hahahaha
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Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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Keith
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Santo2True
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whats the matter, if you want to post a link , live with getting it sent back at you. My progress is documented in my blogs. I've nothing to hide. Wheres your blog? Wheres your record of your progress so that you can go back and look at how your thinking has changed over time?
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Santo2True
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Straight
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if you knew anything about me you would know i'm a live poker player... i suck online and only recently have actually started to play with a plan and knowledge.
Look closer at my ptr ratings and my sessions and you will see one stupid night of drunkin 100nl was the end of my bankroll.
i never in anyway meant to "offend" you dude... for what ever reason you feel to be so aggressive now I apologize for bringing that out. Scroll up a few posts and you will see where I stood up for you and said i thought the picture looked real. Like I stated already, it was more of a joke then anything else. But now that I know you don't have a sense of humor and feel the need to prove that your genitalia is bigger then mine I'll make sure to never post in your thread again.
Nice meeting you, keep up the good work
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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Full House
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Awww guys, this is gettin silly now, can't you just kiss and make up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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Keith
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Santo2True
if you knew anything about me you would know i'm a live poker player... i suck online and only recently have actually started to play with a plan and knowledge.
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And you knew absolutely nothing about me but thought a snide questioning post would be funny
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Look closer at my ptr ratings and my sessions and you will see one stupid night of drunkin 100nl was the end of my bankroll.
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look at mine and you'll see that i Havent played outside my bankroll and i don't play drunk.
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i never in anyway meant to "offend" you dude... for what ever reason you feel to be so aggressive now I apologize for bringing that out.Scroll up a few posts and you will see where I stood up for you and said i thought the picture looked real. Like I stated already, it was more of a joke then anything else. But now that I know you don't have a sense of humor and feel the need to prove that your genitalia is bigger then mine I'll make sure to never post in your thread again.
Nice meeting you, keep up the good work
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maybe the jack off emoticon could be a reason , or a snide questioning post , or maybe even the fact that you can't even apologize without it being an insult.
Think of it like this, joke with your friends call em a wanker nothing happens , walk up to a stranger and call em a wanker don't be surprised if they aint happy about it dont think its funny and thump you. The same comment from people you know and people you don't can be funny or an insult.
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OhioRounder
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In case you missed it, that's "Dick" Cheney and he's winnin' the waving contest...
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CBAT
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dranger7070 Poker Player Ranking and Stats at PokerStars
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Full House
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lol
you do the big quote threads outside of ww
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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fatguy'06
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In case you missed it, that's "Dick" Cheney and he's winnin' the waving contest...
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I bet none of you can shoot a man in the face and then make him apologize to you for it.
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Keith
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Full House
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Originally Posted by DanAronG
lol
you do the big quote threads outside of ww
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getting some practise in lol
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BooG690
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CBAT wins thread.
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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dranger7070
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lol i <3 FTR
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BooG690
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I take the crown from CBAT's head and now place it on Dranger's head.
Dranger, you may have won the internet, again.
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That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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Santo2True
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Straight
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hahahahahahaha, lmfao..
only dranger... I wish i had an award to give you
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"Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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Arjonius
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Well done reaching your first $1k. I remember how that felt even though it was a few years ago now. Upwards and onwards.
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Carroters
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dranger if you'd do just one of those per day, my life would be so much better.
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dranger7070
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4-of-a-Kind
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I need topics tho.
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Grats.Thanks.That gives me drive and hope!
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