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Old 05-21-2007, 12:48 AM     Post subject: Hi all /Question 50NL FR #1 (permalink)  
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So ,
14 month ago, I started with online poker. Builded my roll fron 14 $ to about 1300$ with s.a.g`s. Than cleard some ( about 15) Savvy promotions and began 3- 4 tabling 50NL 6 max ( Stats: 19/ 13,5 (v.p.i.p/ preflop raise)). After my 12 buy in downswing at crypto I decided to test full ring. Run 14 / 5 there while 8 tabling . Now Id like to know on which kind of stats you guys are running. ( Think most of you are playing longer and/or higher limits). Like to see some stats from other players before moving up to 100NL FR.
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:09 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 you need to open up your game. 5% PFR is waaaay too small.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:49 AM #3 (permalink)  
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14/5 is pretty tight. My stats at 50NL over 8,400 hands (yes small sample) are 15.5/10/5.5.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:29 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Your sample size is way small.

It's good you're winning, but your current style is way, way exploitable by anyone paying a little bit of attention. Only raising 5% of hands is fine from UTG, but you should be raising way more than that from the button (20% PFR would still be tight).

Do a search for stats. There are tons of threads with tons of discussion.

this is a good link too:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...t=1&PHPSESSID=
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:01 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Thx for the link.... have to check up my game.
What do you think of this:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-43911.htm
(nearly the same stats I think)
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Thx for the link.... have to check up my game.
What do you think of this:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-43911.htm
(nearly the same stats I think)
Everyone told him to open his game more too. Also, that was pre-ban, the games have changed somewhat since then. He has a 144k sample, you have a 6.8k. Play another 12k hands at 50NL, and if you continue to run 10BB/100 then by all means move up.

Part of learning is knowing how to adjust to your games. If you can play that tight and win for 10bb/100 I am insanely jealous. However, if you want to get better you have to raise more or you will not continue your success (maybe at 100NL, but unlikely at 200NL). Your bankroll should be $2k when you move to 100NL, however if you want to take some shots now that's fine.
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:01 PM #8 (permalink)  
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For sure I know that this was and upswing.......
My plan is to play another 14k hands on 50Nl, trying to raise more and then look where I stand. My roll is about 2,8k at the moment.If i still run good, I will move up and test 6 tables 100Nl.!?
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 6max or 6-tables?

If you're currently playing full-ring then stick with full-ring (i.e. not 6max).

Since you are already rolled for 100NL give it a shot, your style may still be successful. Pick some limit ($400 for 4 buy-ins). And if you loose it go back to 50NL.
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6 tables 100Nl FR to test it than......
Thx for the advicesand links...... Positon stats and went to show down etc. is cool?
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 you need to raise more from late position as I mentioned before. Something like (PFR from UTG to button): 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 18, 24 should be more profitable.

The rest of the stats show up in your BB/100. The money is won and lost post flop and depends on a lot more than just a stat.

Here's a good recent post:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...174&highlight=
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Old 05-21-2007, 08:26 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:06 AM #13 (permalink)  
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:22 AM #14 (permalink)  
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14/5 is a friggin rock. you are missing a ton of action. your big hands are only getting paid off by donkeys and 2nd nuts.

open up in late position, i understand you are still "testing the waters," but you are costing yourself money...and a faster ride to 100 NL.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:50 AM #15 (permalink)  
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 if you play 6max on nonamerican sites, 20/10 or 20/15 should be fine IMO.
15/10 for fr im guessing should make you a winner.
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You're smacking that game around. If your winrate continues, there's no need to adjust. You're playing ideally if you're winning that much.

Won't be the same when you move up, probably.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:38 AM #17 (permalink)  
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So, yesterday I played a session and try to raise ( mostly in late position )with some hands which I normaly do not play (A-x- 89s etc). I understand that in higher limits its important to open the game to get action on your booombs. But at 50Nl, your 3,5 BB raises are called by such junk hands.... its better than watching TV. ( Made 2 stacks from donky big stack who reraises me on flop with his TPnK against my flopped set).
Ran on 14,5/ 8 this session and that was in my confortable play-zone.
Or perhaps I have to play only 6 tables and bee more focuse on my preflop raising action. I have to look.
So thanks for all the help and big THX to ToTo aka XTR1000 who told me to register here......
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