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Old 06-28-2007, 08:43 PM     Post subject: Help with math here... #1 (permalink)  
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I'm at a dispute with a fellow player about the math on a paticular hand and was wondering if someone could help because I'm still learning the basics of the mathematical aspect of poker. I tried using a poker calculator but can't find one that lets me kill a card and I really need the exact math here.

I have Ac 8c.
Opponent has Ad Qc.
Both put $12 in pre-flop. Plus the BB of $2. (Pot is at $26).

8h is exposed.

Flop As Jc 7c.
Opp. Bets $15...I make it $30 more. He pushes. I have $81 behind and he has me covered. So.... Pot is at $116. To put me all in the pot is $197 if I call its $278.

When figuring my outs assume I don't know his Q is the Qc. So the Qc is live.

So. I know he is ahead but by how much? What are my pot odds to call? What pot odds do I need to call? Should I make the call?

If anyone can help me out maybe a quick explanation and then the numbers would be great.

 
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:18 PM #2 (permalink)  
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You have to call $81 to win $197, so you're getting 2.43:1 pot odds. If you assume any club wins for you and you don't know he has the Q, you're 1.9:1 to hit by the river (http://www.tightpoker.com/poker_odds.html), so you're getting the right price. In fact, you're actually not that big an underdog, I guess because two 8's are outs...

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

946 games 0.005 secs 189,200 games/sec

Board: As Jc 7c
Dead: 8h

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.966% 40.38% 01.59% 382 15.00 { Ac8c }
Hand 1: 58.034% 56.45% 01.59% 534 15.00 { AdQc }
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