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01-29-2009, 08:34 AM
Post subject: A hand from 5NL that pissed me off
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 108
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No reads on the villain here, just sat down at the table. I have a feeling I played this hand all wrong. The min bet from the villain on the turn drives me crazy. Could I have played this better?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($4.34)
UTG ($7.56)
MP ($5.97)
Hero (Button) ($4.88)
SB ($1.30)
Preflop: Hero is Button with  , 
1 fold, MP raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20, MP calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.77)  ,  ,  (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, MP calls $0.60
Turn: ($1.97)  (2 players)
MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40
River: ($2.77)  (2 players)
MP bets $2, Hero folds
Total pot: $2.77 | Rake: $0.10
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Marbleboy
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 41
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Im a total prawn at this game, however I tend to think a re-raise with KJoff is kinda loose, also i dont know about the flop bet with middle pair after a pre flop raise
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texa8
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 207
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i dont mind reraising a min raise like that cause i dont respect them much in that situation, but if ur gunna raise preflop i think it needs to be 30-40 cents..
i like the bet size on the flop after two checks in position but after a call id be backing down, especially after villian fires a bet on the turn.
the feel im getting once he c/c the flop (Qx) and realised he could get some action from you he bet out on the turn and subsequently on the river too... i fold the turn here with no reads.
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Biglines
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 108
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yep I should have reraised more pre. The turn bet though really irritates me because its so small relative to the pot size, and I have a hard time folding to such a small bet
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texa8
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 207
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yeah i know i hate that too... i just hear bells when an OOP player c/c's the flop, then bets on the turn.. dunno why
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oskar
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: in ur accounts... confiscating ur funz
Posts: 2,452
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Since it's ultra-short 3-bet pre can be correct depending on villain, but don't just throw out another minraise. Make it 30-40c to go.
Villains line is weired. I really want to give him a backdoor flush there.
Anyway... stop it with the minraises, and the money shall flow in your direction.
A hand I played yesterday: thought it was funny how similar they look: http://weaktight.com/750763
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Da Amberlamps
Posts: 2,216
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min raise pre sucks heavily - If we're going to be 3 betting such a dominated hand we're going to need to at least try to win the pot in the process.
Flop and turn are okay imo - theres no way you can fold getting almost 6-1 when all hes done is call your flop bet and donk out a tiny amount. This is so often retarded draws like K,10 or diamonds etc.
You played it fine post flop but yeah, stop fucking min raising!
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xX zorrito Xx
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Wellington, FL
Posts: 300
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re raise him in an effort to make other people with better hands hands than you fold preflop...
a squeeze play against min raisers works best in my expiriences playing micros provided the table is not full of complete super donks with a saw flop % of over 50
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AFchung
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UCLA
Posts: 1,179
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personally i'd check behind this flop. we're not folding anything out that beats us
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Micro2Macro
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Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: http://three-pair.com/
Posts: 4,463
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KJo on button 6 handed facing a min raise plus no reads. I think it might be better to just flat call and see a flop. We have position so we can control the size of the pot by just calling preflop and we will force our opponent to play poker with us.
By under-3-betting preflop you're just building a big pot with a marginal hand. Unless we have stats on him that he will call lots of 3-bets and fold lots of flops, I don't see a need to bother 3-betting. Save raising for postflop in this case.
I agree with AFchung though based on how you played it, checking behind is good because it will control the size of the pot, and make our opponent a little unsure about firing the turn. We could get weaker hands such as lower pairs to bet into us too whereas not much worse than a queen or a draw will call your bet on the flop.
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Monty3038
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by AFchung
personally i'd check behind this flop. we're not folding anything out that beats us
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gotta go with chung here... check and re-evaluate.
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