Originally Posted by bobdor

I think the main thing that wasn't mentioned that bothered me a bit was Axs (in position.)

Originally Posted by SuperflyPT

Great guide. Where (if at all) do AQo and AJo fit in there?

PT

Originally Posted by WillburForce

IMPORTANT Note: unless otherwise stated, limp in with all PP's and call upto 10x BB. You are looking for a set on the Flop. If you hit a set keep raising and get all-in even if theres possible flushes or straights. No set - fold to any raise.

Originally Posted by WillburForce

SB : Same as UTG ([b]if all folds raise 4x with all hands you'd play from BTN though[b])
BB: Same as CO (be prepared to fold alot to the BTNs raises - don't get tricky).

Originally Posted by jyms

Nope. I won't get into the finer points of whether limping or not is a good idea nor where to play what PP's in what positions, but you can only call raises against someone with between 12 and 15 times the money in his stack.

Calling 10x BB at $5NL is in effect calling $0.50. What if the opponenets stack is only $2 after the raise. This will lose you a ton of money over a short period of time. The opponents stacks and stats are the only consideration when calling raises for Axs and sets. It's about the implied odds of how much you will make by calling. To add to this, you cannot call with SC's either without at least 20x effective (lowest) stacks.

Originally Posted by Robb

Jyms, agreed, it's not elaborate or advanced, but it's not intended to be. I think it's a good starting point for a lot of people.

And here's another thing that irks me. I think everyone's afraid to post guides like this 'cuz they're worried they will get ripped apart. Everyone's a critic. I applaud Wilbur for posting this.

Finally, most folks take guides WAY too seriously. They are good starting points, but not even Wilbur is suggesting this guide covers every situation or will turn someone into an expert. It will help you learn about position, cbetting, and selective aggression. It will avoid some of the most obvious noobie leaks. It will preserve a noobie's br long enough for that guy to figure some things out on his own, tweak the guide into something personal and usable for his game and style. It will help any noobie that THINKS about it rather than blindly playing it.

Originally Posted by Pelion

Yea the turn and river are by far the hardest streets to play. I think at low stakes though most of your opponents are so bad that even if you suck at turn and river play you can turn a profit by just playing a decent starting hand chart and not folding good hands too often.

Originally Posted by WillburForce

Post Flop (don't worry if you think your play will look predictable - people aren't paying attention at these stakes)

If you get called (upto 2 players - if 3+ players call, check unless you have a strong hand) and are first to act always fire out a CB (continuation bet) of between 1/2 and 3/4 of the pot. do this regardless of whether or not you hit the flop.
If you get re-raised and don't have a hand fold.
If you have any hand like TPTK (top pair, top kicker), 2 pair, trips or a very strong draw (1 card to flush or straight) RE-RAISE and be prepared to go all-in. Flat call middle or bottom pair, if no improvement on turn 50% of time fire out a 3/4 pot bet, 50% check. Fold to a re-raise.

If you are last to act and they have checked, fire out a CB of 2/3 - 3/4 of the pot regardless if you have a hand or not.
If they bet, and you have any sort of hand re-raise 3 x their bet. Also re-raise any nut flush or nut straight draw. If they push all-in after your CB call with TPTK, 2 pair, trips or the nut flush or nut straight draw.

Originally Posted by Robb

They're hard to play, but at 10nl and less, it's really what Fnord calls "two street bingo." If a solid open raise and 2/3's cbet won't get 'em to fold, they're effectively all in. So the only real decisions you have to make are preflop and flop. Basically, if you're not pretty sure you're ahead (again, at 10nl and less), you need check/fold the turn/river. No bluffs, no semibluffs without MAJOR outs.

So I kind of agree with WilburForce - it's two street bingo, and with half the players not having full stacks, you rarely have anything like a hard decision on turn/river if you're agro enough pre and on the flop.

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

hmm so you really advocate 3betting and calling all-ins on the flop with straight and flush draws regularly? care to explain why? seems -ev to me, but then again i've played way more full ring than 6max so maybe i am missing something?

Originally Posted by jyms

100BB stacks
villain bets 4XBB's
you 3bet 14BB's
he calls.
pot 28BB's, minus the blinds for Rake
villain donks the flop 10BB's or more and you raise to pot(30BB's+)
pot is 78BB's or more depending on flop donk bet
you have 56BB's or less remaining with 8-9 outs (32%++)
he shoves, pot is now 146BB's or more and you have 56BB's or less

easy call.