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allabout
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04-30-2008, 11:16 PM
Post subject: Graph reading
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: VA USA
Posts: 276
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I recently got Holdem Manager and it has a lot of stuff that my old program didn't have. One thing is a more in depth graph. Can someone please tell me what all this means? I pretty much understand the EV stuff, but not the showdown and non showdown winnings.
Pretty rough month and I'm guessing that the line for nonshowdown winnings is not good. Any advice for how to fix that or why it goes straight down?
Thanks!
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lincoln, UK
Posts: 226
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You've won ~$1000 in pots that go to showdown - blue line at the top. This is money won when you have better cards than opponent @ SD obv.
You've lost ~$2400 in pots that don't go to show down - red line at the bottom. This is money you've lost when you've folded. The suggestion usually is you're folding too many better hands, and not bluffing enough - this is very dependent on the games you play though, you may not need to bluff out better hands if your opponents are showdown monkeys, but the fact you are running $1000 below EV is compounding this.
Use pokerEV to find out situations where you're folding & losing money in non showdown pots - cbetting too much? not cbetting enough? getting floated constantly? getting bluffed off the river too much? etc
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,836
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Your definitly putting in too much money oin hands your folding and not getting enough on hands at showdown. If this is typical for you it would show a lack of pot control. Remember, win money not pots.
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Hawk
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 367
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
Your definitly putting in too much money oin hands your folding and not getting enough on hands at showdown. If this is typical for you it would show a lack of pot control. Remember, win money not pots.
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^^This.
You want to keep the pots small when you have weaker hands and you want to make big pots when you have strong hands.
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allabout
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: VA USA
Posts: 276
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Ok, I figured that wasn't normal. So what should I be looking for? I can filter almost anything with HEM. Cbetting too much? I was thinking I don't cbet enough (maybe 55%) and this would tell me I'm bluffing too much and not catching enough other's bluffs. That seems odd cause it feels like I bluff more than enough and sometimes I swear I'm just there to pay people off. Wow, this is a huge leak. Any advice on how to start plugging it? Jim I'm also a member at GS, is there anything there I should check out?
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jasekelly
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11
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Helpful info that thanks..... 
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