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07-14-2005, 07:52 PM
Post subject: Good play or revenge poker?
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Long post for one question. But if you like poker stories read on.
Last night at the casino it was around bed time for me and I was sitting happy with $550 ($100NL). My bad run seemed like it had finally ended.
So Seat 7 called one of my continuation bets when I missed. We checked it down to the river and he appeared to feel good about calling my bluff.
Later, I'm on the button and have AA. I raise it and get three callers. I wish I had raised it more than 4xBB, but that was the only pfr I had been doing on this table and I didn't want to look suspicious.
Flop 842 rainbow. That flop is fine by me since there are so many people in the hand. I fully expected that we would not see a turn card here.
I bet the size of the pot $60. There's no draw so that should be fine. If they want to call me with a pair of 8's - fine.
Seat 7, the guy from earlier, hit a huge rush earlier and has $900. He takes it upon himself to "keep me honest". He calls, everyone folds. I'm actually really worried that he flopped a set.
Turn is another 2 pairing the board. So if he has the 8, he has two outs left, two pair ain't gonna help him. I bet $75. It's big enough to tell him I'm serious, and small enough for information. And information I get. He makes it $250 total.
This guy doesn't make moves like this. If he's starting now, then more power to him. I put him on the full house, and I fold. To my surprise, he shows me a 2.
Later, I do something stupid. I bluff at him with my missed draw trying to represent a slowplayed T on a TTQ7A board. He was betting small the whole way down, I thought he only had a Q, but with $1200 in front of him, that was a boneheaded play on my part. He of course CALLS. Yes, he only calls me with AT full house.
So here's the hand in question.
I have $250 left. Seat 7 has taken a vast majority of my stack in just twenty minutes right before I was going home. I felt crappy.
Seat 7 has $1100 or so. The other two callers in this hand have around $150.
Seat 7 raises it to $30 (10xBB) UTG. Very large pfr. He still gets two callers! I look down and have pocket 6's. 8:1 to hit my set. 8x30 is $240. So do implied odds tell me I can call this? Can I be sure that I will get my money back from Seat 7 if I hit my set? There are also two callers here. Normally, I just fold this (which may be the bad move). But last night I wanted my money back and my poor math skills told me I was justfied in making this call.
Anyway, this turned out to be my favorite hand of all time. Flop was KK6. Seat 7 bets $25 (very small for a $120 pot). One other caller, I smooth called. Turn is a Q. Check Check. I bet $65 knowing he will call that amount to "keep me honest" again. Seat 7 calls me. Other guy folds. Is Seat 7 slowplaying quads? He wouldn't raise it 10XBB with KQ. If he has either, he can have my stack here. He checks the river. I go all in. He calls with pocket aces. Lol! Revenge! (It felt great that I was able to get away from my aces and he wasn't. But whatever, he still had more money than me).
I win $585, putting me back over where I was before my slide. Was my math correct here, or did I make a move on tilt?
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Element187
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with the other caller putting dead money into the pot, yes the call is worth it... you did everything right IMO
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Drewbie
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I say that was the right call.
You had the pots odds.
The only thing that's taking you down here is KK because as you said, a 10xBB raise does not fit KQ
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Element187
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from his recount, his opponent seems very loose, i wouldnt be too worried about KK here.
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"Imagine how it would be to be at the top Making cash money, Go and tour all around the world, Tell stories about all the young girls." - The Prodigy - Girls
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Checkways
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Element187
with the other caller putting dead money into the pot, yes the call is worth it... you did everything right IMO
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Cool. I'm going to need to start incorporating this into my game more. I think maybe I play too tight when calling raises when I have a big stack. Typically, I play looser with a big stack, but only when I'm raising.
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Checkways
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Straight
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Drewbie
I say that was the right call.
You had the pots odds.
The only thing that's taking you down here is KK because as you said, a 10xBB raise does not fit KQ
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Yeah, I knew that after the flop I was going with the hand because I flopped a house. The pot was so huge at that point. Only another K would have made me fold. An A would have slowed me down.
I was mostly concered with my preflop call of 10xBB. Which is really quite huge to call with a low pocket pair.
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