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housefish17
Old 04-01-2007, 09:03 PM     Post subject: Was this a good play by myself? #1 (permalink)  

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Full Tilt Poker Game #2117160413: Table Dolphin Landing - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:58:10 ET - 2007/04/01
Seat 1: BooneAbacus ($17.95), is sitting out
Seat 2: schoolof420 ($3.75)
Seat 3: housefish17 ($8.25)
Seat 4: Daicata ($25)
Seat 5: NinjaSnipr ($42.20)
Seat 6: jknass ($23.65)
Seat 7: GrindinItOut ($30.60)
Seat 8: doneazzo ($15.50)
Seat 9: mortqrus ($33.60)
housefish17 posts the small blind of $0.10
Daicata posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to housefish17 [5s Ad]
NinjaSnipr calls $0.25
jknass folds
GrindinItOut calls $0.25
doneazzo folds
mortqrus calls $0.25
schoolof420 calls $0.25
housefish17 calls $0.15
Daicata checks
*** FLOP *** [9d 7s Kd]
housefish17 checks
Daicata checks
NinjaSnipr checks
GrindinItOut has 15 seconds left to act
GrindinItOut checks
mortqrus checks
schoolof420 checks
*** TURN *** [9d 7s Kd] [5d]
housefish17 bets $0.50
Daicata folds
NinjaSnipr folds
GrindinItOut folds
mortqrus folds
schoolof420 raises to $1.50
housefish17 calls $1
*** RIVER *** [9d 7s Kd 5d] [3c]
housefish17 checks
schoolof420 bets $1.25
housefish17 folds
Uncalled bet of $1.25 returned to schoolof420
schoolof420 mucks
schoolof420 wins the pot ($4.30)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.50 | Rake $0.20
Board: [9d 7s Kd 5d 3c]
Seat 1: BooneAbacus is sitting out
Seat 2: schoolof420 (button) collected ($4.30), mucked
Seat 3: housefish17 (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: Daicata (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: NinjaSnipr folded on the Turn
Seat 6: jknass didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: GrindinItOut folded on the Turn
Seat 8: doneazzo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: mortqrus folded on the Turn

I was drawing nut flush with a pair on the board, I felt it was appropriate to call that raise
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bigspenda73
Old 04-01-2007, 09:10 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 drop down to $10NL if you cannot buy-in full.

Yea, the call was good. I dont play Ax offsuit though in that spot. Just too much of a reverse implied odds type hand.
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housefish17
Old 04-01-2007, 09:19 PM #3 (permalink)  

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i can afford to buy in, my money loaded on FT doesn't say so but i have more than enough in my bank account

Also, can you explain reverse implied odds, never figured that out
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Old 04-01-2007, 09:26 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Well this is really not reverse implied odds

Implied odds are this: You invest a little amount of money to win a much larger sum

Reverse implied odds are this: You invest a large amount of money to win a smaller sum.

That's as simple as I can put it really. Therefore, this spot really isn't a reverse implied odds spot PF but it's kind of a spot you don't want to put yourself into. You will be OOP the entire hand and your hand has very little promise and can get you into a lot of trouble. I'd much rather complete 86s in the SB than A50 because that hand cannot get you into a lot of trouble but A5 certainly could.

I guess I was talking about buying in full because you only have a $8.25 stack at $25nl. What gives?
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housefish17
Old 04-01-2007, 09:35 PM #5 (permalink)  

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I'm horrible at poker, that's what gives

I'm going to start posting here on a more frequent basis
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TrAdam5
Old 04-01-2007, 10:45 PM     Post subject: Alright, I'll bite... #6 (permalink)  

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To me, the problem with how you played this hand wasn't calling the turn bet, but your bet on the turn. I think a bet here is fine, but it's the size of the bet that's the problem. Your 50 cent bet into a 1.50 pot (slightly less after rake) screams of weakness, and seems like you have a drawing hand and are trying to see a cheap river. If you are going to lead here I would lead for a dollar. How you played it makes it hard to know whether your opponent has a legit hand or whether he was just raising you because he sensed weakness.

Now if you bet a dollar and he raises to 3, then it is more of a clear cut fold, although if you think there is a decent chance he'll pay you off on the river if you hit then I suppose it could still be a call given that you are getting around 5:2 on pot odds, and are most likely only a 3:1 dog.

What all of this really amounts to, imo, is either check or when you lead out, show some strength. Don't compromise and throw in a weak bet which smells of draw to a decent player (although at 25 NL I suppose many players may not pick up on this, so at this level it might not be as big of a mistake as it would be at higher levels).
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Old 04-02-2007, 01:31 AM #7 (permalink)  
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May I direct you to the beginners section?
The flop, turn and river can change everything. It is important to remain objective and remember that the overall goal is to win, not win this specific hand
 
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:32 AM #8 (permalink)  

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yes beginners section... and buy in full.
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