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Old 10-28-2006, 09:40 PM     Post subject: Good or Bad Push with KJ? #1 (permalink)  

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I'm really having problems identifying when is and isn't the right time to push when I begin to get short stacked and the bubble arises. If someone could give some good pointers for this area of short stack tourny play, it would really be appreciated.


PokerStars Game #6805203864: Tournament #32767714, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/10/28 - 17:32:13 (ET)
Table '32767714 255' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: slater (14154 in chips)
Seat 2: Mac2 (1468 in chips)
Seat 3: FAT Tony1 (27647 in chips)
Seat 4: GustavoKTS (27685 in chips)
Seat 5: chris 4tw (3936 in chips)
Seat 6: karen19 (5709 in chips)
Seat 7: lino.cunha (9188 in chips)
Seat 8: Faraday (12035 in chips)
Seat 9: gochiefs19 (7488 in chips)
slater: posts the ante 25
Mac2: posts the ante 25
FAT Tony1: posts the ante 25
GustavoKTS: posts the ante 25
chris 4tw: posts the ante 25
karen19: posts the ante 25
lino.cunha: posts the ante 25
Faraday: posts the ante 25
gochiefs19: posts the ante 25
lino.cunha: posts small blind 200
Faraday: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chris 4tw [Jc Kh]
gochiefs19: folds
slater: folds
Mac2: folds
FAT Tony1: folds
GustavoKTS: folds
chris 4tw: raises 3511 to 3911 and is all-in
karen19: folds
lino.cunha: calls 3711
Faraday: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc Ah 4h]
*** TURN *** [Qc Ah 4h] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Qc Ah 4h 2d] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lino.cunha: shows [Qh Kc] (a pair of Queens)
chris 4tw: shows [Jc Kh] (high card Ace)
lino.cunha collected 8447 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8447 | Rake 0
Board [Qc Ah 4h 2d 5s]
Seat 1: slater folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Mac2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FAT Tony1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: GustavoKTS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: chris 4tw showed [Jc Kh] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: karen19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lino.cunha (small blind) showed [Qh Kc] and won (8447) with a pair of Queens
Seat 8: Faraday (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: gochiefs19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 10-28-2006, 09:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i'm no tourney buff, but i'd say you could probably wait for a better spot.
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 If the table is tight this is an insta push from the co.

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Old 10-28-2006, 11:01 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 i think its fine

probably one of the worst hands thats its ok to push here
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how does one go about protecting himself from this type of scenario where you're praying for a miracle once the chips go in...?
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:21 AM #6 (permalink)  
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this should be in sng strategies.............
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how does one go about protecting himself from this type of scenario where you're praying for a miracle once the chips go in...?
run good all tourney?
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Old 10-29-2006, 03:24 AM #8 (permalink)  
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this should be in MTT strategies.............
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damn i see tourney and assume sng.
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:53 PM #10 (permalink)  

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I don't think it's a good push here since your stack was 10* the big blind. You could just have called the big blind to see the flop or fold to any big raise. I would push with this hand if my stack is below 8 * the big blind. If you had waited for 1 or 2 more rounds, you would probably have got a better hand to push all in.
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 M of < 5 and you have 2 broadways opening in the CO... seems like a pretty standard push. Wrong forum btw, but no big deal.
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:02 PM #12 (permalink)  
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seems like an easy push for me.

Sometimes you might even fold out KQ .... although probably not in a freeroll
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