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Old 04-08-2009, 08:05 AM     Post subject: Go for some thin value here? #1 (permalink)  
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 Check back or bet on river? Villain just arrived. Recommendations?
I was thinking bet bigger on turn then check back river.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K
Hero bets $0.40, 5 folds, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) 6, K, Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.10) 10 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB calls $1.30

River: ($4.70) 3 (2 players)
SB checks
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Old 04-08-2009, 01:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Me personally, without reads on player, I check river.
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Me personally, without reads on player, I check river.
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bet/fold half pot-ish

you wouldn't believe the shit people call you down with
there's your ace queens, jacks, K9
just retarded shit where the guy calls the turn because he has outs, but then decides to call river anyway
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Thats funny....so blunt and to the point.

While I agree that people call down with shit its nice to see them do it even just once before I push half my stack with one pair.
But thats perhaps why my BR is $40 and yours is $4000...
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When I first started NL10 I bluffed off a few buyins trying to take people off of their top pair no kicker, and middle pair type hands
but they just didn't seem to ever fold
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 Pls bet rvr evry time.
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Pls bet rvr evry time.
It obvious that I need to grow a pair...
I know you hear often that you will often be ahead of his range in this situation but then I start thinking too much that his range will then include KT, QT K6 and he has 2 pair...so I check river...
So lets assume we bet river and he reraises:
a) min raise
b) 3x our bet

Do we fold both times or just on b or call always (in this situation)?
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Pls bet rvr evry time.
It obvious that I need to grow a pair...
I know you hear often that you will often be ahead of his range in this situation but then I start thinking too much that his range will then include KT, QT K6 and he has 2 pair...so I check river...
So lets assume we bet river and he reraises:
a) min raise
b) 3x our bet

Do we fold both times or just on b or call always (in this situation)?
I fold to both. There is very little bluff raising on the river at 10nl.
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is this really "thin" value? this just looks like value to me lol
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this is one hundred percent bet/fold!

And by bet/fold we mean here that you fold to ANY raise
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$3.10 on river please and it's not close.
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 Thin value?

JJ would be for thin value on this board, sir.

You could even shove.

Also bet more on all streets. Closer to 4/5 of the pot imo. Trying to be all-in by the river is no mistake.

microstakes villains don't want to make money. They want to bluff and catch bluffs. It's all the rage. believe me.
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 This sort of looks like an 'average' calling range:

Board: 6s Kd Qh Th 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.857% 42.86% 00.00% 18 0.00 { AdKc }
Hand 1: 57.143% 57.14% 00.00% 24 0.00 { 66, AQs, K9s+, QTs, K9o+, QTo }

no?
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