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sandstorm
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07-06-2008, 04:38 PM
Post subject: The GIANT newbie circle of death?
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
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Hey guys, sup?
Many of you know me since before. Many don't. I wanted to get this down on print of some sort, because I think that could benefit me as well as others.
4 years ago, I started playing poker. I started with a $500 bankroll and 2 years later I had a $30,000 bankroll, playing $400 and $600 NL at Party and Pokerstars. I coinsider myself fairly smart and have a good ability to learn things, so I thought I had found just my goldmine in poker. Naturally, I was doing really great on the economical side, since I lived in a small student room without a lot of expenses. Then BOOM (it was really a slow, creeping BOOM) things started to go wrong.
I moved since things study-wise changed a bit. I was going to take a semester off and wait for the autumn, when I would start a three-year program to become an engineer. Since I was raking in the cash, I figured I'd just play pokah for a while. However, I didn't win so much anymore. I didn't really lose, but since the rent had to be paid and I had to eat food, the bankroll started to dwindle. $600NL was not for me anyway, I thought, so I'd just grind $400NL, right? Well, turns out I started to run bad. (I thought, at least. I did for sure, but probably not as bad as I would like to believe). $8000 froze and have now disappeared thanks to PokesPoker and Futurebet. (Those 8k would be a great bankroll now, obv). Soon, without noticing, I had no bankroll. No money. The summer was hard and poor, and the program I was supposed to start cancelled totally. I took a job september-december. January, I hopped on another, one-semester course to wait for THIS autumn, where I now have got into a 5-year program, starting in a month. I did not get a job this summer either, though I tried.
Pokerwise, I found myself with a $500 dollar bankroll left a few weeks ago. Thought I would play some MTTs since I've hit the wall with cash games, and it went well for a while. When the while was over, my plan was to get a grip and grind 25NL, I mean, that should not be a problem, right? But like the last 10 times I've tried to play cash (yes, no extaggeration) I've started out fairly well and then sunk like a rock.
I have $200 dollars left and I am too stubborn to end my poker career. I can't for the love of God and Raptor Jesus figure out what I am doing wrong. I get sick of the stakes, the play, I try to play diciplined but I miserably fail to win even at 25NL. The only option now is to play 10NL and grind grind grind, but since I must be doing something fundamentally wrong, I don't know what to do.
Maybe I've forgotten how to play "low" stakes, even after thinking everyone not able to play low stakes after playing higher was stupid. Maybe I am on a slow, not noticable tilt. Maybe the games got harder (they did). Maybe I'm just not good and was lucky when starting out. I know I should post hands etc, but I also think the problem goes deeper. If i decide to unleash my m4d skillz on 10NL, there will be hands. I promise. I'm lazy and that is a big part of the problem. Everyone got better than me!
I don't need the money, thank God. I'll manage without poker for sure. At the same time, those $200 is all bankroll I will have for a while, so I'm not going to just tilt it off.
Poker is driving me insanse, but I know it's now impossible and I know 90% would have tilted off the bankroll a year ago. I will not give up, I still have the $200
Thanks for reading those of you that did, and stuff. I'll be back. Just wanted to get it off my chest and start to listen to myself because I probably know I just suck and need to study more.
Cheers.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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sandstorm
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Maybe I should have put this somewhere else. Also, it sounded really dramatic. I just suck at pokering atm.
Lol. So whats up anyway?
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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pankfish
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God damn poker is evil.
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<Staxalax> I want everyone to put my quote in their sigs
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Irisheyes
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hi SS good to see you again.
Games are way harder than last year. I remember when I had my old operation thread and we used to grind the same games. Seriously I'm 10x the player I was back then and I'm still only a reasonable winner in soft MSNL games. You have to study real hard or fall behind these days.
gl
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Fnord
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Yeah, pretty much the bottom of the food chain got cut off. Lots of people who had a winning style 1-2 years ago are now the fish.
Hats off for sucking it up and posting your story.
Hopefully the legal situation in the US will get better.
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elipsesjeff
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There are still lots of bad players out there, if you can't find them on stars look somewhere else. He's not even in the US lmao!
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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Oh man i hate to see it. good luck getting back together.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Vi-Zer0Skill
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Reagan's Kid
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never really knew you but i've been around long enough to have read some of your older stuff and you always seemed like a positive/cool guy. hope you can get it back together man.
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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sandstorm
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Thanks guys. Will do my best and all that stuff. For real.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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sandstorm
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Yeah, pretty much the bottom of the food chain got cut off. Lots of people who had a winning style 1-2 years ago are now the fish.
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ZING. Need to get that autopilot off, I think that is my main problem. Grinded my patterns in really hard.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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sandstorm
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Flush
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Hi SS good to see you again.
Games are way harder than last year. I remember when I had my old operation thread and we used to grind the same games. Seriously I'm 10x the player I was back then and I'm still only a reasonable winner in soft MSNL games. You have to study real hard or fall behind these days.
gl
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ty. Also get Keeley back.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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bigred
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Aces
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Full House
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I would say play some live to get your confidence back if you had the bankroll. Typically much easier games then online
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YoungKiller805
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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sounds like you need to take a break from poker man.
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sandstorm
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Flush
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Originally Posted by YoungKiller805
sounds like you need to take a break from poker man.
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Yeah, only took like six months off
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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salsa4ever
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
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yeah the same thing happened to me. I killed 200NL/400NL for a long time, then the legislation, and then I was a fish.
Now I think I'll just be a gigolo
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Originally Posted by bigred
Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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Originally Posted by salsa4ever
well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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