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Rage2100
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10-08-2008, 10:45 PM
Post subject: Getting value from AA ($10NL).
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Full House
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I just wondered what is the best way to get value out of the hand below?
Villain was a complete maniac, he had lost his first $10 stack after calling a raise with K7o, and then going broke on a KJ4 flop. He was calling raises with all kinds of rubbish, and then calling flop bets with top, middle or bottom pair. If he was checked to, he was usually putting in a pot sized bet if he had nothing, or a smaller bet if he hit something.
Should I bet here considering all the draws, and hope he has something? Or can I afford to go for a check-raise?
iPoker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($7.57)
UTG ($10.25)
MP ($31.28)
CO ($6.63)
Button ($15.35)
Hero (SB) ($8.08)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A
4 folds, Hero raises $0.40, BB calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.80) A , J, 3 (2 players)
Hero ??
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go with your read and check
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not betting in this spot against a LAG can potentially lower your win rate and maybe even give him a change to draw out on you.... there's two cards to broadway on the flop... he could easily have 2 pair or a gut shut that he might decide to get cute and raise with...
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I'd easily bet if he's calling so much with weak shit and not double barrel bluffing after potting flops. And we can only c/r when he bets small anyways. I just keep betting. If he pots it we have to just call and keep playing the c/c game which is OK I guess. You can usually make them go apeshit anyways by betting a weird amount but since he calls a lot with weak shit I'd just bet.
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DaddyDeez
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Straight
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shove it imo, i think the worse they are the more likely there gonna call a shove than a regular sized c-bet. its like a sickness to these retarded bastards. he'll probly call and say "had to see what you had".
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Straight Flush
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On a drier board I'd probably play c/c, but on this one I bet/bet/bet. Hmm, or bet/bet then c/r river if I think he'll bluff at it and the draws havnt come in.
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Bet bet bet bet bet raise raise raise and call an all in.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Bet bet bet bet bet raise raise raise and call an all in.
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then ask the poker site employee if you can top back up during a hand
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Wat? Did you read the OP? He always bets when checked to and if he misses he pots and when he hits he misses small.
That tells you everything you need to know about his hand strength and where to go from there.
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Originally Posted by DaddyDeez
shove it imo, i think the worse they are the more likely there gonna call a shove than a regular sized c-bet. its like a sickness to these retarded bastards. he'll probly call and say "had to see what you had".
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this...
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Originally Posted by DaddyDeez
shove it imo, i think the worse they are the more likely there gonna call a shove than a regular sized c-bet. its like a sickness to these retarded bastards. he'll probly call and say "had to see what you had".
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If you going to post shitty strategy then you can just piss off imo!
First OP, If you are intending to play a 100bb game, I suggest you top off your stack so you have a full $10, because as winning poker players we always want to get max value out of our hands.
Second, if you are certain on your read, then checking isn't horrible. But your read is probably over a smallish sample. With the flush draw, and the gutshot draw, I just lead out here. He will for sure be calling with his flush draws, probably his gutshots, Ax, Jx, underpairs. Just bet, bet, get it in!
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DaddyDeez
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If you going to post shitty strategy then you can just piss off imo!
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lol thats cute
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I post nonconstructive piss
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