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Fnord

07-17-2008, 11:52 AM Post subject: Following through after a check/raise

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How often are you having to fire again after check/raising? Particularly when you check/raise people with "initiative" *dum* *dum* *dum*

Some hands just to get the conversation going...

Opponent is kinda Taggy, just sat down

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200.00)
UTG+1 ($77.40)
CO ($180.85)
BTN ($249.65)
Hero ($204.00)
BB ($181.20)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is SB

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, BTN raises to $10, Hero calls $9, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds

Flop:

($24, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $16, Hero raises to $45, BTN calls $29

Turn:

($114, 2 players)
Hero bets $75

I have note on opponent: Bets when checked to. Seems kinda semi-loose and bets like it's his job

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN ($91.80)
Hero ($235.75)

Pre-flop: ($3, 3 players) Hero is SB

2 folds, Hero calls $1, HeIIo, Jerry raises to $8, Hero calls $6

Flop:

($18, 1 players)
Hero checks, HeIIo, Jerry bets $11, Hero raises to $30, HeIIo, Jerry calls $19

Turn:

($78, 1 players)
Hero bets $50

Opponent is really terrible

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($48.25)
UTG+1 ($205.45)
CO ($204.30)
BTN ($205.55)
SB ($79.45)
Hero ($368.70)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BB

3 folds, BTN raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop:

($9, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $8

Turn:

($33, 2 players)
Hero bets $24

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a500lbgorilla

07-17-2008, 01:03 PM

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Hand 1, got to. Turn card is good. But I just 3 bet him preflop.

Hand 2, seems like a set. way to open limp, fish.

Hand 3, pure pot odds call preflop? post flop screams "I'm bluffing because look at what you're doing." I just check-call again with the flushy draw and take my pot odds.

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

Fnord

07-17-2008, 04:35 PM

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way to open limp, fish.

k, if you say so.

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07-17-2008, 05:30 PM

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Hand 1& 3 seem pretty standard
Hand 2 is pretty good I guess cause its very hard for him to continue, but could vary depending on this guy. I don't see why he would have a set, thats for sure.

Looking thru my DB I realized I've stopped c/r very much at all the past couple weeks, which has to be a leak.

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07-17-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

way to open limp, fish.

k, if you say so.

glub glub glub

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

sweetlemon69

07-17-2008, 05:42 PM

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rofl

minSim

07-18-2008, 08:08 AM

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1. good.
2. seems less good, depending on how bad villain is. I think if you fire lots of rivers the turn is ok.
3. good.

PokerPete

07-18-2008, 09:27 AM

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1. OK
2. Depends on how he has been doing during the whole game.
3. OK

griffey24

07-18-2008, 02:52 PM

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Hand 1 - I like this hand, and I like the turn bet cause the flush scare card got there

Hand 2 - I'd need reads to continue here (asin: villain calls/peels flop raises but folds to turns etc). There's a good chance he puts you on a club draw/pair+insider type hand so you might get peeled here with a wide range.

Hand 3 - meh don't like this too much. I'd peel you here with my entire range of anything on the flop probably. You're repping only a flush draw and possibly a straight draw and a very small part of your range is trips. If villain is good, he should be bombing over your turn lead a lot as only Khxh will be happy on the turn. I prefer a c/c on this kind of flop to balance with your mid pairs (which I'd imagine you'd be c/c with?)

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07-18-2008, 02:55 PM

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I basically only continue if the board helps my perceived range, my actual hand or pending reads.

Fnord

07-20-2008, 11:20 AM

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Hand 3 - meh don't like this too much. I'd peel you here with my entire range of anything on the flop probably. You're repping only a flush draw and possibly a straight draw and a very small part of your range is trips. If villain is good, he should be bombing over your turn lead a lot as only Khxh will be happy on the turn. I prefer a c/c on this kind of flop to balance with your mid pairs (which I'd imagine you'd be c/c with?)

My line is exploitive as I think his flop bet is super-weak and many loose players peel raises very light because they already put in some money on that street.

BTW, for the results oriented all 3 opponents folded to my turn aggression. In the second hand he ran his timer a bit, then left the table.

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