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**TheLongGrind** · 03-01-2012 03:27 AM

villain was an aggro nit somehting like 15/13 and had been active postflop , sa him CR a couple of times but it smelled like fps , not repping much or either he was just overplaying his typical nithands.

On Game No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - On Game Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($9.90)
BB ($10)
UTG ($10.94)
MP ($14.32)
CO ($20.31)
Hero (Button) ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7

, 6

UTG bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1) 7

, 9

, 3

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.60, Hero raises $2, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.40

Turn: ($5) K

(2 players)
UTG checks, hero?

**daven** · 03-01-2012 04:11 AM

fold pre if you don't have more info than seems solid TAG, 15-13 isn't really that nit. What is your rationale for raising flop? nothing wrong with over-repping, but is that your intent?

**TheLongGrind** · 03-01-2012 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by daven

fold pre if you don't have more info than seems solid TAG, 15-13 isn't really that nit. What is your rationale for raising flop? nothing wrong with over-repping, but is that your intent?

well i had been a good boy and folding alot to this guy postflop when he got aggro and i felt this flop kind of smacked my BTN range. so yeah had my hopes put on overrepping sets/ flushdraws/combodraws

**Fnord** · 03-01-2012 06:04 PM

Fire again.

**TheLongGrind** · 03-01-2012 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Fnord

Fire again.

jow Fnord. ur preferred sizing here?

**Icanhastreebet** · 03-02-2012 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by daven

fold pre if you don't have more info than seems solid TAG, 15-13 isn't really that nit. What is your rationale for raising flop? nothing wrong with over-repping, but is that your intent?

He's bluffing with 5 outs on the flop which is perfectly fine in this situation imo. Now fire again and TID a huge % of the time. Bet something big enough to have FE v all his now 2nd pair but small enough to make it look like there's a scary river bet inc. Actually it might be better to just get him to call turn like 100% to fold rivers or w/e. Makes us more money etc. and if we bink a 7 or 6 we can make some gay 1/3 pot size value bet.

**bikes** · 03-02-2012 01:42 AM

i like raising a hell of a lot more than calling most certainly fire the turn

**TheLongGrind** · 03-02-2012 02:58 PM

spoiler : i bet 3 into 5 on turn and villain shoved. TO me that looked like flopped sets ( rather small part of his range imho) AA with a spade turned set of kings or AK with a spade. THink i've bet a bit too big. Probably 1/2 psb would have had the same result

**Fnord** · 03-02-2012 06:07 PM

Oh well, you either ran into a hand or he figured out what you were up to.

**daven** · 03-02-2012 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by TheLongGrind

spoiler : i bet 3 into 5 on turn and villain shoved. TO me that looked like flopped sets ( rather small part of his range imho) AA with a spade turned set of kings or AK with a spade. THink i've bet a bit too big. Probably 1/2 psb would have had the same result

AQss/AJss are in his range. Not many sets. AsKx/AsAx/KK too. Firing turn folds out his TT-QQ, 88, Tx and even some of his AK.

just cos it's interesting: list the combos of hands that he has, what % of these fold on the turn? What % of the time do you win at showdown vs the hands he calls the turn with? -> you can figure out how often he needs to fold the turn = what your fold equity needs to be

nh sir.

**Arjonius** · 03-03-2012 02:18 PM

With 76s, you decided to try to outplay a tight player who opened UTG, and he smells like fps?

**TheLongGrind** · 03-03-2012 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Arjonius

With 76s, you decided to try to outplay a tight player who opened UTG, and he smells like fps?

solid contribution bro

**OngBonga** · 03-03-2012 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

Actually it might be better to just get him to call turn like 100% to fold rivers or w/e.

This thought process gives me a boner.

I'm folding pre like always. Why aren't you autorebuyfullstack?

**TheLongGrind** · 03-03-2012 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by OngBonga

This thought process gives me a boner.

I'm folding pre like always. Why aren't you autorebuyfullstack?

Ongame crapsoftware. no autorebuy. Tilts me hard but for some reason the autoreload ahk script i found somewhere isn't working properly

**OngBonga** · 03-03-2012 05:17 PM

Fair enough. As you were...

**TheLongGrind** · 03-03-2012 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by OngBonga

Fair enough. As you were...

have a nice day Lieutenant

**OngBonga** · 03-04-2012 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by TheLongGrind

have a nice day Lieutenant

I did, thanks.

03-01-2012 03:27 AM #1
TheLongGrind View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 280 Location Belgium	follow up turn? villain was an aggro nit somehting like 15/13 and had been active postflop , sa him CR a couple of times but it smelled like fps , not repping much or either he was just overplaying his typical nithands. On Game No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - On Game Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com SB ($9.90) BB ($10) UTG ($10.94) MP ($14.32) CO ($20.31) Hero (Button) ($9.85) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 6 UTG bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold Flop: ($1) 7, 9, 3 (3 players) SB checks, UTG bets $0.60, Hero raises $2, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.40 Turn: ($5) K (2 players) UTG checks, hero?

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03-01-2012 04:11 AM #2
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 7,089 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	fold pre if you don't have more info than seems solid TAG, 15-13 isn't really that nit. What is your rationale for raising flop? nothing wrong with over-repping, but is that your intent?
	don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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03-01-2012 04:14 AM #3
TheLongGrind View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 280 Location Belgium	Originally Posted by daven fold pre if you don't have more info than seems solid TAG, 15-13 isn't really that nit. What is your rationale for raising flop? nothing wrong with over-repping, but is that your intent? well i had been a good boy and folding alot to this guy postflop when he got aggro and i felt this flop kind of smacked my BTN range. so yeah had my hopes put on overrepping sets/ flushdraws/combodraws

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03-01-2012 06:04 PM #4
Fnord View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2003 Posts 19,380 Location I'll Do You Like A Truck	Fire again.
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TheLongGrind View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 280 Location Belgium	Originally Posted by Fnord Fire again. jow Fnord. ur preferred sizing here?

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Icanhastreebet View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2009 Posts 1,410 Location IRC, Come join me!	Originally Posted by daven fold pre if you don't have more info than seems solid TAG, 15-13 isn't really that nit. What is your rationale for raising flop? nothing wrong with over-repping, but is that your intent? He's bluffing with 5 outs on the flop which is perfectly fine in this situation imo. Now fire again and TID a huge % of the time. Bet something big enough to have FE v all his now 2nd pair but small enough to make it look like there's a scary river bet inc. Actually it might be better to just get him to call turn like 100% to fold rivers or w/e. Makes us more money etc. and if we bink a 7 or 6 we can make some gay 1/3 pot size value bet.
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03-02-2012 01:42 AM #7
bikes View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message i roll up Join Date Nov 2007 Posts 6,219 Location house	i like raising a hell of a lot more than calling most certainly fire the turn

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03-02-2012 02:58 PM #8
TheLongGrind View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 280 Location Belgium	spoiler : i bet 3 into 5 on turn and villain shoved. TO me that looked like flopped sets ( rather small part of his range imho) AA with a spade turned set of kings or AK with a spade. THink i've bet a bit too big. Probably 1/2 psb would have had the same result

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03-02-2012 06:07 PM #9
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03-02-2012 07:30 PM #10
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 7,089 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	Originally Posted by TheLongGrind spoiler : i bet 3 into 5 on turn and villain shoved. TO me that looked like flopped sets ( rather small part of his range imho) AA with a spade turned set of kings or AK with a spade. THink i've bet a bit too big. Probably 1/2 psb would have had the same result AQss/AJss are in his range. Not many sets. AsKx/AsAx/KK too. Firing turn folds out his TT-QQ, 88, Tx and even some of his AK. just cos it's interesting: list the combos of hands that he has, what % of these fold on the turn? What % of the time do you win at showdown vs the hands he calls the turn with? -> you can figure out how often he needs to fold the turn = what your fold equity needs to be nh sir.
	don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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03-03-2012 02:18 PM #11
Arjonius View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 229	With 76s, you decided to try to outplay a tight player who opened UTG, and he smells like fps?

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03-03-2012 03:37 PM #12
TheLongGrind View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 280 Location Belgium	Originally Posted by Arjonius With 76s, you decided to try to outplay a tight player who opened UTG, and he smells like fps? solid contribution bro

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03-03-2012 03:52 PM #13
OngBonga View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2010 Posts 5,302 Location England	Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet Actually it might be better to just get him to call turn like 100% to fold rivers or w/e. This thought process gives me a boner. I'm folding pre like always. Why aren't you autorebuyfullstack?
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03-03-2012 04:30 PM #14
TheLongGrind View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 280 Location Belgium	Originally Posted by OngBonga This thought process gives me a boner. I'm folding pre like always. Why aren't you autorebuyfullstack? Ongame crapsoftware. no autorebuy. Tilts me hard but for some reason the autoreload ahk script i found somewhere isn't working properly

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03-03-2012 05:17 PM #15
OngBonga View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2010 Posts 5,302 Location England	Fair enough. As you were...
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03-03-2012 11:45 PM #16
TheLongGrind View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 280 Location Belgium	Originally Posted by OngBonga Fair enough. As you were... have a nice day Lieutenant

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03-04-2012 01:51 AM #17
OngBonga View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2010 Posts 5,302 Location England	Originally Posted by TheLongGrind have a nice day Lieutenant I did, thanks.
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