Folding OTF examples

Played 736 hands yesterday and folded the flop 35 times. I understand that this can happen but just want to throw some examples in here to see if you agree with these folds.

I haven't included stack sizes here to keep the post easier to read. Just assume 100BBs.

Villain VPIP/PFR/AF

Hand 1

BTN 18/14/4

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 7 7

fold, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, BTN calls $0.06, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) Q 3 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.10, fold

BTN wins $0.15


Hand 2

MP Unknown

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A T

Hero raises to $0.06, MP calls $0.06, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) 3 2 Q
Hero bets $0.11, MP raises to $0.22, fold

MP wins $0.35

Hand 3

UTG Unknown

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J T

UTG raises to $0.07, Hero calls $0.07, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.17, 2 players) Q 8 3
UTG bets $0.12, fold

UTG wins $0.16

Hand 4


BTN unknown

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 8 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.07, fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) A 3 9
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, fold

BTN wins $0.15

Hand 5

UTG unknown

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q A

UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.19, 2 players) 8 5 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.09, UTG raises to $0.18, fold

UTG wins $0.35

Hand 6

BTN Unknown

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BTN raises to $0.10, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.23, 2 players) 9 K 5
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.09, fold

BTN wins $0.22

Hand 7

UTG is 23/15/Infinite


Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12, 2 players) 9 6 K
Hero bets $0.06, BB raises to $0.18, fold

BB wins $0.23

Hand 8

BTN 32/30/3

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T T

UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.06, fold, Hero calls $0.04, UTG calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.19, 3 players) 5 J 9
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $0.11, fold, fold

BTN wins $0.18

1: bet flop
2: c/f flop
3: call
4: fold
5: check flop
6: fold
7: fold
8: bet flop, call now

Originally Posted by Renton

1: bet flop
2: c/f flop
3: call
4: fold
5: check flop
6: fold
7: fold
8: bet flop, call now

Just going to look at Hand 1 and Hand 8 for now.

I'm employing the 'no set, no bet' philosophy here. Obviously needs more thought.

EDIT:

More anaiysis on Hand 1:

Villain is decent reg, so is more likely to fold to cbet than fish.

Villain is betting OTF with all draws and PP below TP+ so 50% fold equity vs his PF calling range which is say 15%.

Say I cbet 10c

Get my out my home made EV calc



So cbetting looks good here actually, mainly because I'm getting decent fold equity vs this Villain.

Vs a stronger PF calling range 11% Premiums and PPs only, its more marginal as fold equity decrease and my equity decreases vs a bet.



So I'm happy with that...