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Old 02-02-2005, 03:47 PM     Post subject: folding JJ Preflop #1 (permalink)  
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Yesterday on a 50nl table I was dealt JJ and the person before me went all in for about 30 and I folded my jacks.

Was this correct I had just sat down and had no read on the guy.

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Old 02-02-2005, 03:55 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Nice avatar. You're a Steelers fan too?

It's a little cautious, but I think in your situation, you did the right thing. However, I culd also say that after being at that table for 3-4 orbits, you probably found you should have called or pushed all in against this guy.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:01 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Usually fold. You're a coinflip at best and dominated at worst unless he's a lunatic, which you have no way of knowing when you first sit down.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:16 PM #4 (permalink)  
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he showed 77 but I had no read and there was only 1.25 in the pot.

and no i am not a Steelers Fan they are a bunch of cry babies

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Old 02-02-2005, 04:17 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I'd fold that every time in that situation.

However some would call and not be wrong, so there really is no solid right or wrong answer here.
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:39 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Good fold... it amazes me how many people think they are playing small stacked at the final table of a WSOP event.

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Old 02-03-2005, 03:39 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I call, but there's nothing wrong w/ a fold.

Here's why I call:

1. He made a bone head play going AI for a pot of less than $2, so I assume that he is a bone head and capable of doing that with all sorts of crap. A good player never does that with a big hand in a ring game.

2. It was only $30 and not even a full buy in. Even if you lose you prime the table up and they know that you give action which in turn will get you action later.

3. I have come to enjoy taking coin flips in ring games. It's just more fun!
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:26 PM #8 (permalink)  
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he showed 77 but I had no read and there was only 1.25 in the pot.

and no i am not a Steelers Fan they are a bunch of cry babies

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I don't like you.

You shut up.

You shut up and you die.



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Old 02-03-2005, 04:50 PM     Post subject: What did I say #9 (permalink)  
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Was it the coment about the steelers cause the Patriots Kicked their asses all over the field.

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Old 02-03-2005, 04:55 PM #10 (permalink)  
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wwonka, 'rilla is actually a Steelers fan. He has the Pats as his avatar because.... well maybe you should ask elanto why.
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Old 02-03-2005, 05:57 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Old 02-03-2005, 06:06 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Old 02-03-2005, 09:40 PM #13 (permalink)  
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I'd call it, what are you afraid of?
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Old 02-03-2005, 09:44 PM #14 (permalink)  
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You'd be making a bad call.

You're either Way behind or slightly ahead.

You'll be a big loser in the long run.

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Old 02-03-2005, 10:17 PM #15 (permalink)  
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What makes you way behind besides a bigger pocket pair? I'd call it if he had big slick too because neither will come on the board and you also have a chance of hitting three-of-a-kind. Was your hand suited too?
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:20 PM #16 (permalink)  
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If his hand was suited, I would be calling for a mis-deal.
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:27 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Wow...okay I'm sorry lol tired

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Old 02-03-2005, 10:34 PM #18 (permalink)  
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What makes you way behind besides a bigger pocket pair? I'd call it if he had big slick too because neither will come on the board and you also have a chance of hitting three-of-a-kind. Was your hand suited too?
Experience tells me that the hands that are going AI preflop are slight dogs to JJ or huge favorites over (most likely).

It's a losing move to get all your chips in like this just becuase "you have a chance at making three of a kind."

That's a very fishy concept that you need to shed quickly.

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Old 02-04-2005, 04:36 AM #19 (permalink)  
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poker is not a game of absolute strategy, it depends on too many things.

a tourist who is on complete tilt goes all in, you have 6,6 what do you do..

a pro player goes all in, you have 6,6, what do you do....

2 different answers here, for me at least, and probably many others
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:09 PM #21 (permalink)  
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the eagles will lose this one.

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Old 02-04-2005, 10:58 PM #22 (permalink)  
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I'm a patriot fan and that always bothers me when people say that, the patriots aren't a cocky team, maybe the fans but not the jersey.
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Old 02-06-2005, 12:27 PM #23 (permalink)  
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I'm a patriot fan and that always bothers me when people say that, the patriots aren't a cocky team, maybe the fans but not the jersey.
i am not cocky it is confidence.
I think the eagles can win But alot will have to go wrong for the pats for that to happen.

Funny thing is if you as an eagles fan how they can win it is the pats need to turn over the ball 4 times.

we held the #1 scoring offence to 3 points and put 40 up against the #1 scoring defense.

I am just confident.

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Old 02-07-2005, 07:20 PM     Post subject: Re: folding JJ Preflop #24 (permalink)  
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Yesterday on a 50nl table I was dealt JJ and the person before me went all in for about 30 and I folded my jacks.

Was this correct I had just sat down and had no read on the guy.

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Good fold the only time I am going to call a all in bet with JJ preflop is is I was trying to steal with it and I have a large enough portion of my stack commited that I am obligated to call.
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What makes you way behind besides a bigger pocket pair? I'd call it if he had big slick too because neither will come on the board and you also have a chance of hitting three-of-a-kind. Was your hand suited too?
Experience tells me that the hands that are going AI preflop are slight dogs to JJ or huge favorites over (most likely).

It's a losing move to get all your chips in like this just becuase "you have a chance at making three of a kind."

That's a very fishy concept that you need to shed quickly.

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diagree but depends on the table limits...low limits, you often see low PP going all in to isolate and flip a coin for all the $$....people wouldn't raise a 1.25 pot $30 on KK, or AA....they would raise, but not all in on an unraised pot....i would have put the guy on low PP and called his all-in, and be a 5-1 favorite in the hand....
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