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DRL453
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09-30-2006, 09:01 PM
Post subject: flush vs straight
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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With an open ended straight draw I have 8 possible outs (4 outs if not open ended) to make the hand but with a 4 flush I have 9 possible outs to complete the hand. How is a straight ranked lower than a flush if the flush will come more often? Should I draw more often to the flush hitting than the straight?
Thanks
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Ash256
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK
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In answer to your second question:
Draw to both as often as you like as long as you're being given the right odds to draw. Gutshots are fine to draw to if you're being given the right odds (It's just you rarely are).
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PhilPaine
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Because they aren't ranked based on the odds of the two cards after the flop making the hand. Open ended or not makes no difference. Drawing five cards from a pack, you are more likely to get a straight than a flush.
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BowlinPinTim
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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if this kind of thing interests you than you should read this:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...e6e640e66786eb
it will make your day
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TLR
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short answer - thwe probability of making a str8 out of 7 random cards > probabiliy of making a flush
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jyms
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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I think to simplify, if it hasn't been enough. You have only 4 outs to a inside straight draw and 9 to a flush. Your comparing apples to oranges. All the odds are based on starting with no cards. Not after your hand is almost made. Using your logic, if you have 3 aces you have no outs to a set and 4 outs to quads. So wouldn't it be easier to hit the quads. The outs are not what gives a hand it's strength.
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Iwind
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Norway
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4 outs for quads, I can see you can have 2 outs in some cases but not 4....
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
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OOPS  I meant 1 out.
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