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Robert

08-16-2005, 07:44 PM Post subject: Flopping a full house - how to get the most money out of it?

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I flopped a full house. I tried to slowplay here, but didnt seem that anyone caught anything on the flop. How would you play to get the most out of this hand? Should I play anything differently? (PartyPoker NL $25) I had no read on this guy (almost sat down and quadtabling

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***** Hand History for Game 2545599095 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 16, 15:39:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 37513 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: garnack ( $32.10 )
Seat 2: SpeedRaiser1 ( $7.15 )
Seat 3: schuckout ( $54.75 )
Seat 4: make_u_sick ( $55.70 )
Seat 6: BriDutremble ( $9.55 )
Seat 9: Dustehue1 ( $28.95 )
Seat 7: RobertLOL ( $26.70 )
Seat 5: msilvia9ac ( $13.43 )
Seat 8: IAmPotty ( $22.10 )
Seat 10: Suprnova1001 ( $25 )
SpeedRaiser1 posts small blind [$0.10].
schuckout posts big blind [$0.25].
Suprnova1001 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RobertLOL [ 9h 9s ]
make_u_sick folds.
msilvia9ac folds.
BriDutremble folds.
RobertLOL calls [$0.25].
IAmPotty calls [$0.25].
Dustehue1 folds.
Suprnova1001 checks.
garnack folds.
SpeedRaiser1 folds.
schuckout checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 9c, 6h ]
schuckout checks.
RobertLOL checks.
IAmPotty checks.
Suprnova1001 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
schuckout checks.
RobertLOL bets [$0.25].
IAmPotty calls [$0.25].
Suprnova1001 folds.
schuckout folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
RobertLOL bets [$1.50].
IAmPotty calls [$1.50].
RobertLOL shows [ 9h, 9s ] a full house, Nines full of sixes.
IAmPotty doesn't show [ Ts, Qc ] two pairs, queens and sixes.
RobertLOL wins $4.40 from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of sixes.

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PokerPatNEU

08-16-2005, 07:58 PM

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It's hard to get paid off when you flop the nuts like that unless someone else has the 6, then you see real fireworks.

If my opponents are pretty aggressive i will try and slowplay there, hoping the button or CO makes a play at the pot that you can call and continue to check/call till the river. If they are tighter, i'll just lead out and bet...A tight player isnt putting much money in there unless he made a set of 6's anyway, so maybe you'll get lucky and get a call from someone with the 9 or a draw.

ChezJ

08-16-2005, 08:08 PM

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anyone with high pockets will play back at you. high overcards may call if the price is right. only way to find out is to bet. put out a small amount they can call, so they will feel more pot-committed and so there will be a bigger kitty to tempt time if they happen to catch on the turn or river. then you can bet increasingly more on the later streets.

ChezJ

The_Cheat

08-18-2005, 09:47 AM

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I dont like to showdown hands like that... i would prefer a couple callable bets on the flop and turn, and then drop the hammer AI on the river, if he calls, great, he's a dumbass and you get paid, but if he folds it, I throw my cards at the dealer and tell him to bury them. Shout "Making Money is Fun" and stack my chips. Try to verba-tilt when you got the goods. Its fun

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Miffed22001

08-18-2005, 09:18 PM

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i'd attack it like i had just a pair of nines.
eg look weak to a caller on the flop, not liking the river maybe checking then pushing the river on what looks like a complete bluff maybe.
Difficult here as you are not going to get paid to much i feel.

journey075

08-18-2005, 09:25 PM

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agreed with cheat. id rather take a tiny pot with a chance at a huge pot than a small pot with no risk.

btw, where have you been? i dont remember seeing any updates of you in the wsop...

The_Cheat

08-20-2005, 08:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by journey075

agreed with cheat. id rather take a tiny pot with a chance at a huge pot than a small pot with no risk.

btw, where have you been? i dont remember seeing any updates of you in the wsop...

dude it has been a crazy summer for me mang. i got pwned at WSOP... well, not really, I got sucked out on by a living legend named Eric "son of bitch" Seidel. you can read about it here
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...800&highlight=

i made out pretty well playing cash games while i was down there so I went to Mexico for about a month... I am back now cause school starts next week. ya'll will be seeing more of me, dont you worry

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

The english prefer tea and crumpets. Americans prefer to kick your ass.

-'rilla

journey075

08-20-2005, 08:16 AM

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thats awesome, maybe next time you can wear a "fuck eric siedel" shirt to the wsop

. congrats with your success this summer though, youve always been one of my favorite posters.

Hatefulcow

08-22-2005, 06:36 PM

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The same basic thing happened to me in a home game last week. I had pocket Jacks, the flop came J J A. I flopped quad jacks. I was up against the other rock in the game, the first one being me. The turn came I bet small he called with a Q. The river came a 10 and I bet medium to small bet and he just called with Q 10. No re-raise just a call. I was kinda pissed cause I coulda gotten so much money out of him but one i was up against a rock and two there was the scare of a straight on the board so I only picked up a small hand.

I guess if you're up against a loose aggressive player and the flop comes big for you, bet big if your table image isn't too tight cause he'll think you're bluffing and he'll try to come over the top and that's when you can nail him.

K2 the ArmA

08-22-2005, 08:32 PM

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this is how i like to play

first pos. check/hesitate-call check/hesitate-call check/AI
last pos. bet 1/2 pot to checks or reraise a bet

usually flopping the nuts will only get payed off against lagg players or the more unlikely that some one else touched the flop to. I try to rep. a steal in late pos., hesitate for a 5-10 seconds and make a weak bet, make them think weakness and you might even get a raise, just call and see what happens on the turn.

its all about what the other player thinks you have when you are holding the nuts. the other night i floped the nut flush against a guy who min-raised QQ PF. I bet out 1/2 pot, and i guess he decided i was on TPTK and reraised all in with QQ (like 20$ more lol), i quickly call and he throws a fit. I find the trickiest part is to make people think you are bluffing when you arn't, which becomes a whole lot easier when you play LAGGier.

i had a SNG the other day where i went nuts with 4 people left and a big stack, i ended up getting 2 called PF with AKs and flopped trip A's and made a big bet in early pos, 1 called and 1 reraised me AI with KQ, i call and he shows 10J

i just realized im rambling, later guys

EricE

08-22-2005, 08:46 PM

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I too use the hesitate-call, hesitate-bet small routine. You aren’t getting paid big unless someone make a hand though. I like to make sure some bet is out on every street because of the passive players I run into that won’t bet unless someone is betting into them. I just make it very small bets until someone looks me up. I used the hesitate-call routine to bust someone last night. By the river 3Js were showing and like an 8 and a 7. I held the other J but by hesitating for every bet I convinced him I didn’t have it. He pushed on the river, the rest is history.

Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL

The_Cheat

08-23-2005, 01:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by journey075

thats awesome, maybe next time you can wear a "fuck eric siedel" shirt to the wsop

. congrats with your success this summer though, youve always been one of my favorite posters.

well thanks man. i really hope i run in to him again. i had him on tilt, and i know i could nail his ass to the wall, given the chance. I will get my chance...

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

The english prefer tea and crumpets. Americans prefer to kick your ass.

-'rilla

Fnord

08-23-2005, 01:26 AM

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I'll make my usual post:

Bet your hand fish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

The_Cheat

08-23-2005, 01:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

I'll make my usual post:

Bet your hand fish.

rofl

pwned!

Don't Hate the Playa, Hate the Cheat

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

The english prefer tea and crumpets. Americans prefer to kick your ass.

-'rilla

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