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Old 10-18-2008, 06:57 PM     Post subject: Flopped wrong end of straight - facing aggression #1 (permalink)  
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Can't use the hand converter because it doesn't work with Poker Office.

Probably should have raised the flop bet but do you lay this down?

PokerStars Game #21298768652: Holdem No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/10/18 14:50:42 ET
Table Lehigh 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: incredible78 ($5.42 in chips)
Seat 2: Super Jav ($1.45 in chips)
Seat 3: ponyfitness ($3.71 in chips)
Seat 4: A.Prosche ($0.39 in chips)
Seat 5: qbcatl ($3.83 in chips)
Seat 6: kitchclee ($2.84 in chips)
Seat 7: schaelepe11 ($1.50 in chips)
Seat 8: lucian_ionut ($4.90 in chips)
Seat 9: WILLAMI ($2.90 in chips)
ponyfitness: posts small blind $0.01
A.Prosche: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ponyfitness [8s 7c]
incredible78 said, "was ist grün und innen hohl? how knows?"
qbcatl: folds
kitchclee: calls $0.02
schaelepe11: folds
qbcatl said, "?"
lucian_ionut: calls $0.02
WILLAMI: folds
incredible78: folds
Super Jav: folds
ponyfitness: calls $0.01
A.Prosche: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Ts 9d]
ponyfitness: bets $0.06
A.Prosche: calls $0.06
kitchclee: raises $0.18 to $0.24
lucian_ionut: folds
ponyfitness: calls $0.18
A.Prosche: folds
*** TURN *** [Js Ts 9d] [7s]
schaelepe11 leaves the table
ponyfitness: checks
kitchclee: bets $0.96

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Old 10-18-2008, 07:04 PM #2 (permalink)  
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fold as played, but with flopped straights like that just get it in on the flop because you're afraid of a card like the turn coming where you can only split with any 8 and the flush draw got there
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:59 PM #3 (permalink)  
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There are ALOT of cards we don't want to see on the turn with this board.
ANY spade(bcuz it often kills the action, and you may easily be behind.)
Any jack ten or nine.
Any Q, K, 8, 7

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Old 10-19-2008, 12:14 AM     Post subject: Re: Flopped wrong end of straight - facing aggression #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by ponyboy
*** FLOP *** [Js Ts 9d]
ponyfitness: bets $0.06
A.Prosche: calls $0.06
kitchclee: raises $0.18 to $0.24
lucian_ionut: folds
ponyfitness:
this is the important decision. You need plans when you play a hand, not just reactions to a situation (until the reaction has a plan implicit, but looks like this isn't the case for you here)
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
 
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:08 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i like the title..not the lower end, but the WRONG END
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Old 10-19-2008, 12:20 PM     Post subject: Re: Flopped wrong end of straight - facing aggression #6 (permalink)  
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*** FLOP *** [Js Ts 9d]
ponyfitness: bets $0.06
A.Prosche: calls $0.06
kitchclee: raises $0.18 to $0.24
lucian_ionut: folds
ponyfitness:
this is the important decision. You need plans when you play a hand, not just reactions to a situation (until the reaction has a plan implicit, but looks like this isn't the case for you here)
^^this

...plus how often does he show up with a KQ here? Are you ahead right now, d'ya think?
My Operation and FTR Rethread: Stations are *sob* so hard to play against
 
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:59 PM     Post subject: Re: Flopped wrong end of straight - facing aggression #7 (permalink)  
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*** FLOP *** [Js Ts 9d]
ponyfitness: bets $0.06
A.Prosche: calls $0.06
kitchclee: raises $0.18 to $0.24
lucian_ionut: folds
ponyfitness:
this is the important decision. You need plans when you play a hand, not just reactions to a situation (until the reaction has a plan implicit, but looks like this isn't the case for you here)
^^this

...plus how often does he show up with a KQ here? Are you ahead right now, d'ya think?
So I should have 3 bet here and laid it down if I faced aggression rather than just calling?

BTW, you forgot about Q8. Which is what he had. We both flopped a straight but he had the higher end.
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Old 10-19-2008, 02:35 PM #8 (permalink)  
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*NOTE*
Open limps Q8 in EP
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:24 PM #9 (permalink)  
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*NOTE*
Open limps Q8 in EP
^^ this
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:06 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 Stack off on the flop.
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions

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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 10-19-2008, 05:45 PM #11 (permalink)  
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*NOTE*
Open limps Q8 in EP
That was a given. After I put my screen back together.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:14 PM #12 (permalink)  
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*NOTE*
Open limps Q8 in EP
That was a given. After I put my screen back together.
This made me lol
My Operation and FTR Rethread: Stations are *sob* so hard to play against
 
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:43 PM     Post subject: Re: Flopped wrong end of straight - facing aggression #13 (permalink)  
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Can't use the hand converter because it doesn't work with Poker Office.
Hi - You can get the Game #/Hand # from Poker Office, then go into your Poker Stars hand history. Then you can use the hand converter.
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