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AFchung
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03-27-2009, 06:43 AM
Post subject: Flopped straight in big multiway pot
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Full House
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Very first hand here. I flatted and planned to ship on non spade turn
Thoughts?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
UTG+1 ($15)
MP1 ($16.45)
MP2 ($33.85)
CO ($13)
Button ($37.50)
SB ($25.35)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($25.85)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , Q
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) checks, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero checks
Flop: ($1.60) 10 , K , A (6 players)
Hero bets $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4, Hero calls $3, 1 fold
Turn: ($10.60) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $9, Button raises to $33.25 (All-In), Hero calls $11.75 (All-In)
River: ($52.10) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $52.10 | Rake: $2.55
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Fold flop to raise, C/F turn as played.
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I damage threads that may actually benefit some posters
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AnTman_69
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Flush
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Well played..pretty standard imo. I probably c/r the turn instead but your line is still okay.
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pocketfours
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by AnTman_69
Well played..pretty standard imo. I probably c/r the turn instead but your line is still okay.
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Umm, no.
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villains range on this flop is pretty much killing us I think. We can only really acredit him with flushes, straights and perhaps the nfd. His range, unless we know he is bad and spewy will probably look something like this:
28,710 games 0.001 secs 28,710,000 games/sec
Board: As Ks Ts
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.654% 31.88% 11.77% 9153 3380.00 { QdJh }
Hand 1: 56.346% 44.57% 11.77% 12797 3380.00 { KQs, QsJs, Qs9s, JTs, T9s, 9s8s, 9s7s, 8s7s, 8s6s, 7s6s, 6s5s, 5s4s, KcQs, KdQs, KhQs, QJo, QsTc, QsTd, QsTh }
So our equity sucks since were drawing dead so often. I think all calling does is fail to get the money in all the times he has the nfd, but still allows us to stack of to his made flushes. At least if we ship the flop we can sometimes although rarely get it in ahead. Fold flop though I think based on this analysis. Analysis may be off btw, just my stab at it.
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Lucothefish
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Full House
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The more people in the pot, the more chances someone has hit the flush. 3 way pot I'd look to ship it but 6 way, you're boned.
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<@d0zer> how will you learn if I don't berate you harshly?
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AnTman_69
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Flush
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hmm. It's a limped pot, that changes things alot.
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tyrn
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On a limped pot I would just fold to aggression. Shrug and find a better spot.
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ATOTHEC101
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fold everywhere bar preflop, definitely fold flop to the raise.
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bigspenda73
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So most of you don't think he can raise the flop and bet the turn with worse hands?
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