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Old 06-08-2006, 04:20 AM     Post subject: Flopped 2pair, is this a bad time to try to slowplay? #1 (permalink)  
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My thought process was to make it look as if i was on a flush draw, so that he would keep betting into me. I put him on a hand like qk, or qj, and i was value raising on the river after a nonscare card.

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$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 08, 00:00:20 ET 2006
Table Table 98150 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: wesman46 ( $100.01 )
Seat 9: Cardinalkid5 ( $99.17 )
Seat 3: AATrain01 ( $66.46 )
Seat 2: LuckyDog205 ( $43.95 )
Seat 5: middleP ( $14.75 )
Seat 8: DrFondles ( $0 )
Seat 1: BoldBifma ( $36.25 )
Seat 10: DEFERMAT ( $51.45 )
Seat 4: SADDAD ( $48.60 )
Seat 7: meltedtime ( $50 )
LuckyDog205 posts small blind [$0.25].
AATrain01 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ 7s Qs ]
DrFondles has left the table.
SADDAD folds.
middleP folds.
wesman46 calls [$0.50].
meltedtime folds.
Cardinalkid5 folds.
DEFERMAT folds.
BoldBifma folds.
LuckyDog205 folds.
AATrain01 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 7h, 4s ]
AATrain01 checks.
wesman46 bets [$0.75].
AATrain01 calls [$0.75].
>You have options at Table 96958 (No DP) Table!.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
AATrain01 checks.
wesman46 bets [$3].
>You have options at Table 95860 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 96958 (No DP) Table!.
AATrain01 calls [$3].
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
AATrain01 checks.
>You have options at Hohenstein (No DP) Table!.
wesman46 bets [$8].
>You have options at Hohenstein (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Hohenstein (No DP) Table!.
AATrain01 raises [$20].
wesman46 calls [$12].
AATrain01 shows [ 7s, Qs ] two pairs, queens and sevens.
wesman46 shows [ Qd, Td ] two pairs, queens and tens.
wesman46 wins $46.35 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and tens.
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Old 06-08-2006, 09:54 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I wouldnt be slowplaying there. 2 pair is never the nuts as it is, and flush draw boards always make me play everythiong faster. If I just called the flop id definatly raise the turn. Too many scare cards can come on the river to slowplay the turn and now theres some money in the pot it doesnt matter as much if he folds.
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Old 06-08-2006, 10:37 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I guess it's OK if you can narrow his range down to two possible hands simply because he bet the flop, but as you can see that's usually not a good idea. Bet the flop and if you don't bet, please check-raise. I don't understand why people slow-play when they put their opponent on a hand that they're likely to call a raise with anyway.
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Old 06-09-2006, 03:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 I never slow play two pair. It's strong on the flop and loses it's value fast.

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Old 06-09-2006, 06:04 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 I like slowplaying made hands, not two pair. Too many things to counterfiet you.
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:41 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'd never slowplay 2pair on a board like that. It's just too easy to fall way behind with nothing to show for it. If you bet and opponent has nothing, he'll fold. What would you do if a heart fell and opponent starting betting big?
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Old 06-09-2006, 12:53 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 This is a decent spot for a flop checkraise.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:41 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I slowplay quads
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Old 06-09-2006, 07:58 PM #9 (permalink)  

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You're looking for trouble slowplaying the hand like that. Theres a flush draw on the table and your hand isnt exactly a monster. Bet on the flop!
Slowplaing is sooo overrated. Even if you have the nuts aggressive betting often pays off better .

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Old 06-23-2006, 02:26 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Never, ever slow play two pair. Two reasons;

1. You should be after BIG pots. Betting two pair will disguise the strength of your hand and get more action from someone with top pair or an over pair. By check calling the flop, check raising the turn (or some other variation) you are telling him I BEAT A PAIR. Bet out that two pair and your opponent may put you on a less strong hand.

2. The obvious...your hand may become the losing hand by giving free cards, or a card may come that will scare away your opponent (ace, paired board, flush draw hits)

BET your hands, BUILD the pot early, and win a huge pot. He either has it or he doesnt, if he cant call you on the flop he probably cant call the run or the river.
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