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Evilpopcorn
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06-29-2009, 12:20 PM
Post subject: Flop and Turn Cbet Frequencies
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2008
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So what are good number for these at the micro stakes ? Obviously they will be dependant on the style you are playing.
My numbers are:
Playing style: 19/17/4
Flop Cbet : 64%
Turn Cbet : 45%
Thoughts?
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vs. nits and fish my strategy is actually very simple:
raise PF, cbet flop, profit
so I cbet a shitton vs. weaker opponents and more OOP than IP
if you look at the cbet numbers in the articles in HEM, the people that earn the most money cbet 69.7 to 75.1 percent of the time
and have a turn cbet of 40.8 to 45.3 percent
since you listed your other stats, I'll tell you which groups have the highest earnings for those as well
VPIP: 21.9 to 25.3
PFR: 16.1 to 17.7
AF: 3.22 to 3.84
of course playing 25/16 is probably not a great idea
but I guess the statistics say that 23/18 or something similar is ideal
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nish81
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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I'll c-bet almost any heads up flop at 2nl, unless the texture is way off. or the villain is very weird. but not so much on the turn..need to work on firing a double barrel sometimes.
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Evilpopcorn
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Wow Cbet in the 70s feel a bit spewy to me. These are guys i lurv c/r with air on the flop OOP or if the i know the guy cbet flop and never bets turn unless he got a strong hand then its an easy float IP.
Although i guess microstakes players rnt really making this adjustment so then Cbetting "a lot" is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by Evilpopcorn
Wow Cbet in the 70s feel a bit spewy to me. These are guys i lurv c/r with air on the flop OOP or if the i know the guy cbet flop and never bets turn unless he got a strong hand then its an easy float IP.
Although i guess microstakes players rnt really making this adjustment so then Cbetting "a lot" is the way to go.
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my cbet is 79, but I think I should get that down to like 75 because my fold to flop raise is a little high and turn cbet is a little low
spoilers: 100NL people aren't even c/ring enough on the flop to make cbetting a lot incorrect
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ballarat, Australia
Posts: 5,842
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They dont c/r much, but they do float a lot at times.
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Just playing to improve.
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Originally Posted by bjsaust
They dont c/r much, but they do float a lot at times.
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they don't float, they just call
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Evilpopcorn
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by iopq
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Originally Posted by Evilpopcorn
Wow Cbet in the 70s feel a bit spewy to me. These are guys i lurv c/r with air on the flop OOP or if the i know the guy cbet flop and never bets turn unless he got a strong hand then its an easy float IP.
Although i guess microstakes players rnt really making this adjustment so then Cbetting "a lot" is the way to go.
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my cbet is 79, but I think I should get that down to like 75 because my fold to flop raise is a little high and turn cbet is a little low
spoilers: 100NL people aren't even c/ring enough on the flop to make cbetting a lot incorrect |
Are spoilers not meant to be a bad thing ? That is GREAT news ! 
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Originally Posted by Evilpopcorn
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Originally Posted by iopq
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Originally Posted by Evilpopcorn
Wow Cbet in the 70s feel a bit spewy to me. These are guys i lurv c/r with air on the flop OOP or if the i know the guy cbet flop and never bets turn unless he got a strong hand then its an easy float IP.
Although i guess microstakes players rnt really making this adjustment so then Cbetting "a lot" is the way to go.
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my cbet is 79, but I think I should get that down to like 75 because my fold to flop raise is a little high and turn cbet is a little low
spoilers: 100NL people aren't even c/ring enough on the flop to make cbetting a lot incorrect |
Are spoilers not meant to be a bad thing ? That is GREAT news ! |
no, a spoiler is like when someone tells you something that happens in the middle of a book you've started reading
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
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Been thinking more and more about this lately. It should really depend on villain's tendencies plus the board plus your hand, if he's not thinking about your range. I think the key here is to figure out what range you want to actually cbet with and then what you want to check/x or check behind with vs. each villain as well.
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