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RHCNNN
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03-22-2005, 09:21 PM
Post subject: Fixed a leak in my ring game!
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Straight
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Each time I've deposited $25 into Ultimate Bet I've played the small stakes NL ring games, either .10-.25c or .5-.10c, and with the exception of once I've made at least $100 profit on each deposit. MY problem would be the huge swings I'dgo on after the initial good run, so I'd come back down pretty fast.
Recently, on my last deposit, I crashed out of 4 SnGs in a row leaving me with $3 in my account. I took it over to the .5-.10c NL ring game, and 4 days later i have $95 in my account. And I haven't had one big downswing yet. Sure I've lost a buy in a few times, but usually make it back and some on the next session. One thing I've improved on noticably and that has contributed to less swings is letting go of "nice looking" hands when they're second best.
Before I would lose huge pots on these "bad beats" because I thought my pocket Kings deserve to hold up against the moron who called my raise with Ace-4 and flopped an Ace... I would keep on firing because "he shouldn't be playing that hand" and other such nonsense. Or in multiway pots I wouldn't let go of my set even when there's 3 cards of a suit on the board, 4 to a straight, and 3 people raising like crazy.
I've finally realized that laying down hands, is just a big a part of keeping your bankroll moving upwards as winning pots is.
I just ask myself whether my hand is likely (honestly) beat, even if it pains me to fold the pocket queens after an ugly flop, I just do it and cut the losses there. I've tried to stop betting/calling because I think like I deserve it, or I played the hand better... and I am able to lay down and save myself a lot more money.
If you play the lower stake ring games and are swinging a lot, maybe you can benefit from considering more whether your hand is good against the junk you know others might be playing (albeit unwisely)... its helped me out quite a bit.
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Learning to lay down hands is a good way to cut a lot of variance from your game.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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Fnord
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Better yet, over-bet on earlier streets and watch them make horrible calls. Then you don't have to make tricky laydowns...
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RHCNNN
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03-22-2005, 11:56 PM
Post subject: dfhsh
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another thing that has helped is thinking ahead to what might happen on the next street. If I have a piece of the flop, like middle pair, or top pair weak kicker, and theres either a lot of people in the pot, or one large raise to me I don't only consider whats happening right now. I contemplate whether I'll be able to call another big bet on the next street if my hand doesn't improve a lot, or if I'll be safe if another same suit comes or the 4th to the straight etc... If I don't think the next card will make my hand a comfortable favorite than I can just get out of the marginal situation right now.
I don't mean to sound so tight/passive, but in the lower stakes the pots are usually multiway, and the chances increase that someone is holding the junk cards that beat you, so knowing when to fold will save u a bunch
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Fnord
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See this thread for how to play in these games.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=8921
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DoGGz
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03-23-2005, 07:26 AM
Post subject: Re: Fixed a leak in my ring game!
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When you get this flop fire at it and don't slow play. Lowlimit NL there are too many people that will suckout if you don't.
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Originally Posted by RHCNNN
Each time I've deposited $25 into Ultimate Bet I've played the small stakes NL ring games, either .10-.25c or .5-.10c, and with the exception of once I've made at least $100 profit on each deposit. MY problem would be the huge swings I'dgo on after the initial good run, so I'd come back down pretty fast.
Recently, on my last deposit, I crashed out of 4 SnGs in a row leaving me with $3 in my account. I took it over to the .5-.10c NL ring game, and 4 days later i have $95 in my account. And I haven't had one big downswing yet. Sure I've lost a buy in a few times, but usually make it back and some on the next session. One thing I've improved on noticably and that has contributed to less swings is letting go of "nice looking" hands when they're second best.
Before I would lose huge pots on these "bad beats" because I thought my pocket Kings deserve to hold up against the moron who called my raise with Ace-4 and flopped an Ace... I would keep on firing because "he shouldn't be playing that hand" and other such nonsense. Or in multiway pots I wouldn't let go of my set even when there's 3 cards of a suit on the board, 4 to a straight, and 3 people raising like crazy.I've finally realized that laying down hands, is just a big a part of keeping your bankroll moving upwards as winning pots is.
I just ask myself whether my hand is likely (honestly) beat, even if it pains me to fold the pocket queens after an ugly flop, I just do it and cut the losses there. I've tried to stop betting/calling because I think like I deserve it, or I played the hand better... and I am able to lay down and save myself a lot more money.
If you play the lower stake ring games and are swinging a lot, maybe you can benefit from considering more whether your hand is good against the junk you know others might be playing (albeit unwisely)... its helped me out quite a bit. |
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