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ProZachNation

01-26-2008, 03:06 AM Post subject: Five hands, learn to spot a set you guess were the sets are

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I ran into a set in two of these hands, see if you can spot what was a set and what wasn't.

Also if you can comment on the play much appreciated.

Hand 1:This guy is terrible showed down a terrible hand earlier
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($5.55)
Button ($5.60)
SB ($5.43)
BB ($13.44)
UTG ($9.36)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

, Q

.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, Button calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.65) 7

, 3

(3 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, Button folds, SB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($2.15) J

(2 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.

River: ($2.65) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.

Final Pot: $3.65

Hand 2: Same terrible player, right lay down?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($8.21)
UTG ($1.10)
MP ($7.36)
CO ($9.88)
Button ($13.16)
SB ($17.14)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.35, UTG folds, MP calls $0.30, SB folds.

Flop: ($0.80)

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.8, MP calls $0.80.

Turn: ($2.40)

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, MP raises to $3, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $5.40

Hand 3: No real guess on villan
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($12.36)
MP ($8.57)
CO ($5.69)
Button ($11.55)
SB ($9.29)
Hero ($5)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.12)

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.1, CO calls $0.10.

Turn: ($0.32)

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.32, CO raises to $0.64, Hero raises to $1.25, CO raises to $1.86, Hero calls $0.61.

River: ($4.04)

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.99 (All-In), CO calls $2.99.

Final Pot: $10.02

Hand 4:This hand happened 2 hands after previous one(so you can prob cheat and know what opponents hand was for previous one not that you should need to)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

CO ($12.40)
Button ($8.60)
SB ($10.21)
BB ($11.55)
UTG ($10)
Hero ($4.98)

Preflop: Hero is MP with

.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.65)

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.6, Button calls $0.60, SB folds.

Turn: ($1.85)

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, Button raises to $7.8, Hero calls $2.68 (All-In).

River: ($10.21)

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $10.21

Hand 5: No read on either opponent
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($6.87)
Hero ($4.81)
MP ($14.57)
Button ($1.38)
SB ($7.09)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with

.
Hero raises to $0.2, MP calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.15.

Flop: ($1)

(5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.1, Hero raises to $3, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls $3, BB raises to $6.67, Hero calls $1.61 (All-In), SB calls $3.67.

Turn: ($14.83)

(3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.83)

(3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $18.95

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.

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Deanglow

01-26-2008, 03:16 AM

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Hands 3 and 4 I'm pretty sure. Five maaaaaaybe

spoonitnow

01-26-2008, 03:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Hands 3 and 4 I'm pretty sure. Five maaaaaaybe

Thinking the same.

More info on villains would help.

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ProZachNation

01-26-2008, 03:24 AM

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Hand 2: larger bet on turn?
Hand 3: turn, bad reraise size, but B/F there?
Hand 4: PF fine, flop fine, Turn b/f? Whats gona be raising me that doesnt have me beat? Only thing I can think of is maybe AK bluff? everything else beats me
Hand 5: 5 way flop is always fun, so fucking messy I was lost.

Is my thinking way off on this? The play and the review of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.

ProZachNation

01-26-2008, 03:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Hands 3 and 4 I'm pretty sure. Five maaaaaaybe

Thinking the same.

More info on villains would help.

I was 8tabling w/o a HuD

so I assume most people are bad unless I spot other wise

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.

spoonitnow

01-26-2008, 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ProZachNation

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Hands 3 and 4 I'm pretty sure. Five maaaaaaybe

Thinking the same.

More info on villains would help.

I was 8tabling w/o a HuD

so I assume most people are bad unless I spot other wise

Ah, well in that case it's fine. At 5nl, fuck it, know what I mean?

Ash256

01-26-2008, 06:16 PM

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3) for sure
4) maybe
5) nice river

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01-26-2008, 06:54 PM

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I say 1, 3 and 4. 5 looks looks more like A's, K's, AK or maybe J's.

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swiggidy

01-26-2008, 06:55 PM

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Hand 1:
raise more on flop
raise turn
call river

Hand 2:
call, see what he bets on river.

you can argue for fold, but I typically don't fold to minraises. Maybe if it was a 50bb river min-raise. If they think it's value I like to encourage them.

actually, I lol and fold

Hand 3:
Your 3bet size sucks. Why push river after you call the 4bet?

I think this is a set and your line is pretty bad. If you really need this explained ask.

Hand 4:
You're ahead of AT, KT, that's about it.

Hand 5:
Just put him all-in on flop.

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ProZachNation

01-26-2008, 08:16 PM

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Hand 1: A8o, so he 3 barreled air....

Hand 2: From how he played the previous hand with air, I kinda figured he had it this time. Do you think thats right from the previous read? He is so bad he has to have it I think

Hand 3: Turned over a set of 5's, called the flop a pair hit set on turn. In the future bet flop like that, maybe fold to raise on turn? Such a bad place to be oop.

Hand 4: Was semi tilted from previous set, should folded to turn push, he had set of 2s

Hand 5: Small blind had kings(so he didnt 3 bet kings gg 5nl) bb had 87o(so fucking retard) I do not really think I would play hand 5 any different on that flop I think I am ahead a lot there and was of bb who pushed with top pair

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.

swiggidy

01-26-2008, 08:54 PM

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Hand 1: lol @ calling that 3barrelling

Hand 2: Think ranges here. What hand do you beat, or even have more than 4 outs against?

Hand 3: Note that he min-raises with a turned set (presumably big hands) and move on.

Don't ever fold to a 6bb min-raise. Flop and betting turn are fine. If you raise, raise more. There is $1.50 in the pot after you "call" his minraise, so make it another $1.50. Raise to $2 or so. If he insta 4bet min-raises, or insta pushes then you've got a "spot s set" hand.

With top two I'm likely thinking "fuck it" and paying him off.

Hand 5: Push the flop. There is $3 in the pot if you call, so raise $3 to $4 which basically puts you all-in. Doubt it matters much in the end, but you need to learn how to bet size.

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01-26-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ProZachNation

Ahahahaha I was correct. Pwnage.

Robb

01-27-2008, 03:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swiggidy

With top two I'm likely thinking "fuck it" and paying him off.

Hand 5: Push the flop. There is $3 in the pot if you call, so raise $3 to $4 which basically puts you all-in. Doubt it matters much in the end, but you need to learn how to bet size.

At NL5, I'm paying off w/ 2 pr almost always.

Several of these flop and turn bets seem off. Bet-sizing is something I'm getting better at and changes based on game level and site. But you have to bet enough with an overpair or TPTK to shove them off mediocre hands. When you do, the powerhouse hands tends to come over the top all-in. With any luck, you won't be pot-committed when they do.

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