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Penneywize
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05-14-2010, 05:20 AM
Post subject: First Session Review Video - Comments Welcome
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Full House
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Alright, let me preface all this by saying that I mainly put together as an exercise for myself - so that I'd know how to go through the entire process in future. In all honesty, I'd probably not have posted this particular review up if it weren't for the fact that I spent about two hours putting it together / compressing it / finding somewhere to upload etc etc; so I figured I might as well try and get something out of it if anyone was willing.
A few points:
- My commentary is pretty unspectacular. I make a few mistakes interpreting the play (i.e. I say I completed in the SB when I really called a minraise) etc. Next time I'll review the entire sessions and make notes on the hands I am interested in, so hopefully I'll have more interesting / thoughtful things to comment on.
- I make a few mentions of "ranges" but never really specify what I'm talking about; in one instance I include a KJ or AJ as part of a villain's range. Just understand that I don't really think this is his entire range.... I'll try and be more descriptive in this regard in future videos.
- I skip the vast majority of hands I fold preflop. The only downside I see to this is that the viewer will not pick up on some reads I may have had the opportunity to get while playing. Not sure if I should include more of this.
- I realize the HUD for the players on the bottom of the screen is pretty much not visible for the first half of the video. My bad. Luckily I went out of my way to mention some of the stats in a few situations that came up.
Alright, here's the vid:
MEGAVIDEO - I'm watching it
Any comments appreciated.
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Keith
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didnt note the times .
K9 on the trips hand , why flat the raise(or awas it a bet) - there was a flush draw there
66 you called the raise to setmine when you barely had the odds the make it pofitable.
when the tables went short handed did your alter your ranges to allow for that.
about 12 minutes in .....did you think of swapping seats ....guys on your left were really loose and guys on right that you had position on were a lot tighter.
17.20 bet the straight draw when checked to ....semi bluff it
99 hand could have stabbed at it instead of assuming he had KQJ
KQ all in ...i think i fold it , you are behind any ace or PP that he does this with. when i call these I'm generally doing it with 99+,AQs+
24 minutes in you flop the flush. I think you have to lead it and start building a pot , you don't want him checking behind and hitting his flush for free. As played when he bets raise it , he could be betting Ax and think flush is unlikely for you.
99 cbet .
55 thats just a cooler. not sure that i'd have flatted the min raise though ....probably have raised it up again.
general thoughts ........too much flatting raises rather than raising your big hands and a lot of checking on the flop rather than cbetting.
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Penneywize
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Thanks for the comments, Keith. You seem to have picked up on quite a few things here.
K9 hand was def misplayed, I believe I made allusion to this in the video (I'm thinking you had the volume turned down/off..?) but in future I believe I definitely should lead out the flop. I think I still have this newbish tendency to slowplay when I unexpectedly make a hand, which is a bit of a recurring theme in this video (ugh).
66 hand, I do say my mistake was calling the reraise; obv I'm only ever continuing that hand against an opponent showing that much strength if I hit my set on the flop. All around bad play. This is further exemplified by my play on the 8-high flop. If I'm giving him credit for an overpair on the flop, why am I calling his pf re-raise?
As far as table dynamics go - I didn't consider swapping seats in the situation you mentioned. I also don't think I widened my range, as appropriate, when the tables shortened to 6 or 5. The tables seem to have been changing rather quickly, and this was but one table of four I was playing. That's not an excuse obv - just a reason for not being as attentive as I should have been.
KQ all-in is pretty marginal, but do keep in mind the stack size of the villain and the amount already in pot. I'd have to rewatch the video to verify but I think I was getting around 1.25+ to 1 to call - which would be pretty lousy if I'm including QQ+ in his range (little info, so I think I have to). Anyhow, definitely not a spot for me to be picking in future.
And yes, one of the main things I was interested in getting out of this review was whether I could have won more pots without showing down (pf steals, c-bets on flop etc). I do also seem to have a tendency to not c-bet flops that have any kind of over on top of my pp and giving credit to villains when they bet in these situations...
Appreciate the time you put in Keith. This helps a great deal.
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Penneywize
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btw was the sound in the video so bad that it could not be listened to? just wondering if I should change things going forward...
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Keith
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yeah the sound was fine. Kinda depressing that I seem to be the only person thats watched it and commented. Its not exactly an incentive for others to do the same thing. This would benefit so many other 2 and 5nl players. Go through and watch the video, would you make the same plays , would you play differently and why. Would you make the same play for a different reason. Learn how other players at your level are thinking so that you have some more info in your own sessions.
A hand history you have no back story, here you have table dynamics, stats on your opponents and a chance to learn , but it seems like its too much bother to spend half an hour or so to do it.
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Imthenewfish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_MM
yeah the sound was fine. Kinda depressing that I seem to be the only person thats watched it and commented. Its not exactly an incentive for others to do the same thing. This would benefit so many other 2 and 5nl players. Go through and watch the video, would you make the same plays , would you play differently and why. Would you make the same play for a different reason. Learn how other players at your level are thinking so that you have some more info in your own sessions.
A hand history you have no back story, here you have table dynamics, stats on your opponents and a chance to learn , but it seems like its too much bother to spend half an hour or so to do it.
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Thank you for guilting me into watching it.
-Edit, Don't have an account, can't watch it
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Penneywize
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You don't need an account on megavideo to watch it; just click the link, click the red play button, close the popup that comes up, and then click the green arrow. Thanks again.
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Penneywize
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By the way - I don't really mind if not that many people end up watching the video - I didn't really have high expectations posting this up.. getting what I did out of keith made it worth my time imo. Everything now is just gravy 
But, yeah, from the viewer's perspective, I think much can be learned about your own game by watching this video:
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Originally Posted by Keith_MM
This would benefit so many other 2 and 5nl players. Go through and watch the video, would you make the same plays , would you play differently and why. Would you make the same play for a different reason. Learn how other players at your level are thinking so that you have some more info in your own sessions.
A hand history you have no back story, here you have table dynamics, stats on your opponents and a chance to learn (...)
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QFT. Hand histories exist in a vacuum; the poster is expected to put up their reads and general analysis of villain's play up to that point. In a video like this, you're privy to all the information I have; we're very much on the same level.
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azalehabibi
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Thanks for the OP vid and Keith's comments. I wish more people would do videos at micro levels.
Just a comment or two. I'm pretty nitty normally. Most table I'm at at 5nl are quite loose, so nitty is EV most of the time. On this table I would have played looser than the OP did. Table was short most of the time and not many players playing overly loose.
The last hand. The OP's analysis sounded pretty much what I would have been thinking in that situation. Tight player 3betting PF and on flop. Normally I don't think twice about getting it AI with any set. But in this situation, I might have been a bit worried considering the person on my right. I almost certainly would have shoved in this circumstance but would have been crossing my fingers when the cards were shown. Almost impossible at this level to fold a set.
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celtic123
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Penneywize
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yeah I'd like to think I've come a long way since I posted this vid, but who am I kidding?
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