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philly and the phanatics

07-28-2009, 12:57 AM Post subject: a few hands, first night of my op- 2nl

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philly and the phanatics is a jewel in the rough

all of these hands i have posted turned out to be against players that i had less than 15 hands with so my hud stats are basically obsolete, and even misleading if anything. No real reads

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Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 204325
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $5.00
BB: $1.15
UTG: $1.01
UTG+1: $2.88
MP1: $2.77
MP2: $0.94
CO: $5.27
Hero (BTN): $2.07

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with A

2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.08, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.25) A

(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.36, MP1 calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.97) 8

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.46, MP1 raises to $2.31 all in, Hero ?

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is this raise aight? smaller? larger? not at all?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 204332
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MP1: $5.31
MP2: $1.14
CO: $1.62
BTN: $2.50
SB: $2.09
BB: $1.00
Hero (UTG): $2.11
UTG+1: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A

Hero raises to $0.08, 4 folds, BTN raises to $0.22, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.47) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.47) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.42
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was this a good fold , or at 2nl is a call str8?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 204370
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UTG+1: $2.81
MP: $1.94
CO: $2.90
BTN: $2.20
SB: $2.60
BB: $0.97
Hero (UTG): $1.39

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with Q

Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.18, 1 fold, SB calls $0.17, 2 folds
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should i even be c-betting this ?

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 204374
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UTG: $2.81
UTG+1: $1.94
MP: $2.20
CO: $3.00
BTN: $3.19
SB: $0.95
Hero (BB): $1.29

CO posts a big blind ($0.02)

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero is BB with 7

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO checks, BTN calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.14, UTG+1 calls $0.12, CO calls $0.12, BTN calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.57) 9

(4 players)
Hero bets $0.28, UTG+1 calls $0.28, CO raises to $1, BTN folds, Hero folds
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i put this guy on some kinda draw, i think he will fold if i push the turn, idk this is just bad though i think i was on tilt at this point

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 204375
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UTG+1: $2.70
MP1: $1.35
MP2: $0.70
CO: $2.93
BTN: $4.05
SB: $2.80
BB: $0.94
Hero (UTG): $0.86

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K

Hero raises to $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.52) T

(5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.26, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $0.26, CO folds, SB folds

Turn: ($1.04) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.04, Hero raises to $0.18, MP2 calls $0.14

River: ($1.40) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.32 all in, MP2 calls $0.16 all in
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Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 204378
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UTG+1: $2.00
UTG+2: $2.90
MP1: $5.55
Hero (MP2): $2.10
CO: $2.23
BTN: $1.42
SB: $2.48
BB: $1.83
UTG: $0.93

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP2 with 7

3 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.09, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.24) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.64) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.32, SB calls $0.32

River: ($1.28) 6

(2 players)
SB checks, hero???

do i worry about someone slow playing a straight, or do i just extract for value, and how much should i bet here?
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and lastly, is this a fold????

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 204380
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SB: $1.81
BB: $3.54
UTG: $3.27
Hero (UTG+1): $3.20
MP1: $1.00
MP2: $2.55
CO: $1.37
BTN: $1.45

MP1 posts a big blind ($0.02)

Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero is UTG+1 with Q

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.10, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.38, MP2 raises to $2.25 all in, ???

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spoonitnow

07-28-2009, 01:33 AM

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Number your hands please.

Hand 1: Put him on a range of hands, then based on your equity against that range decide if the risk:reward ratio of the amount you're calling and the side of the pot makes a call +EV. It probably is a +EV call.

Hand 2: Put him on a range of hands, then based on how often you think he folds and your equity against the range that calls, decide if the risk:reward ratio makes this +EV. Then compare that to other bet sizes.

Hand 3: You're likely crushed. Easy fold.

Hand 4: No. Your bet doesn't accomplish anything.

Hand 5: "I put this guy on some kinda draw." Check your equity against Jh4h on this flop and you might be surprised. I think you know you played this bad.

Hand 6: Easy value bet on the river. Turn bet is questionable.

Hand 7: Follow the process I outlined in Hand 1.

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Stacks

07-28-2009, 02:12 AM

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Hand 1 [AKo] - This is pretty player dependent, because a lot of players have a different donking range. I'd say flop is fine, and b/f turn is fine as well. It really depends if he is going to take this line with hands like KJ, JT as a semi-bluff, as well as if he is going to do this with worse made hands like AJ/AT. I definitely think those hands are reasonably in his range for donking the flop, and even calling a flop raise, but don't think he c/shoves turn with them all that often. But obv player dependent.

Hand 2 [AQs] - Another pretty player dependent hand. Your entire line revolves around his 3betting range. Against a tight 3betting range, then you should just fold preflop. And I think that is likely optimal against unknowns in this spot, as they are 3betting an UTG open, and I don't suspect they are doing it all that light. Calling and being OOP isn't too appealing, and neither is 4betting.

As played, flop is standard. Turn can be good if you suspect he is 3betting hands like TT/AQ/QQ and will fold to a turn and river barrel, but I think just betting the turn, and then giving up on the river is likely bad. Also, turn bet-sizing is a bit excessive. $0.25-$0.30 will accomplish the same thing as this $0.42c bet, and have to work less often to be profitable.

Hand 3 [KQo] - Pretty easy fold. Especially without a read on what his 3betting range is. The majority of the hands he does this with have you dominated (AQ, AK, QQ-AA). So a call is effectively just building a pot OOP with a likely dominated hand.

Hand 4 [77] - Preflop is fine. But so is checking in the BB.

Postflop, a cbet here is pretty bad. You have 3 villains to act after you. You rarely have the best hand here, and rarely get called by worse hands. So you can't really bet for value. On the flip side, given 3 villains, and the flop texture, you rarely get enough folds to make a "bluff" here profitable. Not to mention with your particular hand, when you do bet and are called you have pretty terrible equity, which means your bet has to work more often. Add to that the fact you do have some showdown value (marginal given the number of villains). So just c/f, and save yourself some money.

Hand 5 [AKo] - c/f flop again. I know you have 2 overcards + a gutshot. However, the board is paired so even your gutshot isn't to the nuts. Plus your overcards are likely to be tainted, because anyone with Tx, KQ, AQ, KJ, J9, can beat you even if you hit one of your outs on the turn/river. There is 4 villains, so the chance of you getting enough folds for this to be a profitable semi-bluff is pretty marginal.

Hand 6 [76s] - Preflop is fine. Betting flop is fine, but I'd be checking back the turn unimproved. Likewise, I don't mind checking back flop to induce bluffs from overcards on the turn/river. But there is something to be said about betting flop for protection as well. Also because your gutshot doesn't have great implied odds if you hit.

Check back the turn. Your bet really doesn't accomplish much. You probably don't fold out many better hands (maybe a better 6x, 77/88, but that's a small part of his range). And you aren't likely to get calls from worse.

On the river, as spoon said, this is an easy vbet. His most likely holding is like 9x, TT, JJ. It's probably a bet/fold if stack sizes warrant it. And unless villain thinks TT/JJ/A9 is the nuts.

Hand 7 [QQ] - You need 36% equity to make a call here profitable. If he does this with JJ+, AK 100% of the time, then you have 42% equity and a call is +EV. However, it comes down to reads, etc to determine if he is actually going to do this as bluffs or with a worse made hand (AJ).

However, even if this call is +EV, I really don't like donking out on this flop. Donking out really allows him to play pretty perfectly against you. He can easily get it in with KK/AA (as he assumes you likely 4bet those hands preflop), and he can fold his AK/AQ hands that he could very well cbet the flop with if you check.

So overall I think you should be c/calling this flop. Then check/evaluating on the turn depending on his tendencies and timing/betsizing tells.

Stacks

07-31-2009, 09:14 PM

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