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daven

09-13-2007, 10:15 PM Post subject: fake tilt

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can it be a good thing if the table thinks you're mad/tilting?
An example below , in hand 1 villain abuses disconnect protect and I decide to use it to my advantage. Got pretty abusive towards him, pushed all-in pre-flop nesxt hand (no callers) etc.. I figured it would help me get a stack later, and shortly afterwards hand 2 happened...

Hand 1)
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($5.42)
MP2 ($12.46)
Hero ($5.10)
CO ($1.73)
Button ($2.03)
SB ($4.74)
BB ($5.38)
UTG ($2.59)
UTG+1 ($1.84)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q

, T

.
4 folds, Hero calls $0.04, CO calls $0.04, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.16) 4

, Q

, 4

(3 players)
BB bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, CO folds.

Turn: ($0.40) T

(2 players)
BB bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36.

River: ($1.12) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero calls $5.10 (All-In) BB disconnects.

Final Pot: $6.22

Results in white below:
BB has 4d 9c (full house, fours full of queens).
Hero has Qd Tc (full house, queens full of tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $6.22.

Hand 2)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($12.55)
Hero ($6.05)
UTG ($1.94)
MP1 ($1.93)
MP2 ($4.98)
CO ($6.75)
Button ($2.01)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.04, 4 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.12)

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.04, MP1 raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.04.

Turn: ($0.28)

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.04, Hero calls $0.04.

River: ($0.36)

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.16, Hero calls $6.01 (All-In), MP1 calls $1.93 (All-In).

Final Pot: $4.54

Results in white below:
Hero has Qh 9h (straight, queen high).
MP1 has Kc Jc (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $8.46.

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Hawk

09-13-2007, 11:05 PM

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One of my favorite situations is when you get AA on the very next hand after taking a bad beat.

They can't be thinking anything OTHER than tilt, can they?

ajs4385

09-17-2007, 02:06 PM

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Once had a major bad beat, next hand got aces, hand after got kings, pushed both times faking tilt, got no callers tho, both $25 cash games

biondino

09-17-2007, 02:56 PM

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I wouldn't take fake tilt too far above 25nl. At $50+ players tend to be a bit more sensible and are more aware of how non-optimal their move might seem (and might be if they get it wrong), and also, fewer players open push (and fewer players call).

I've tried it a few times and not really had much joy. However, one time I was playing £50nl against a hyper-maniac who was open pushing a lot and had, the hand before, lost over a buyin open-pushing some crap. Next hand he did the same and I was siting in the BB with AQs. However, effective stacks were over 200bb, and I tanked for 29 secs before folding.

The SB, however, had called for like £5 so we saw a showdown. Not only did lunatic have junk - K8 if I remember rightly - but the flop came xQQ. Would have been my biggest pot EVER if I'd had the balls to call.

Pelion

09-17-2007, 05:00 PM

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They have to be aware enough to think you might be tilting, but not aware enough to realise you are probably faking it. Thats a pretty small window. Not only that but most of the fairly low stakes fish dont have the balls to call with slightly weak holdings when people are pushing every hand anyway.

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bigspenda73: But how much did you win?

TLR

09-17-2007, 06:07 PM

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There is no such thing as table image at the microstakes

You have to push about 20 hands in a row for people to start noticing

euphoricism

09-17-2007, 06:42 PM

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Gotta table chat it up.

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euphoricism

09-25-2007, 02:46 AM

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Here's how you do it lulz

JIMBOO05 wins ($5.25) with (Three of a kind, queens).

fake tilt...Donkey limp/calls with the nuts.. gets no money. Awesome. I wasnt sure if I could pull off the fake tilt when I didnt actually lose any money but hey worth a try...

EUPHOLOGI - Posts small blind $0.10
YOEYYUTCH - Posts big blind $0.25
*** POCKET CARDS ***

Dealt to EUPHOLOGI [Ac Ah]

EUPHOLOGI: thats ******* ******** dude
EUPHOLOGI: im going to ******* stack you
EUPHOLOGI: so ******* hard
EUPHOLOGI: **** you all
EUPHOLOGI: all of you
EUPHOLOGI: ******* suck

JIMBOO05 - Calls $0.25
BILEJOBOB - Raises $1 to $1
THEBARISTER - Folds
EUPHOLOGI - Raises $3.90 to $4
YOEYYUTCH - Raises $34.25 to $34.50 This is SB... I guess he thought I was tilting, wonder why.

JIMBOO05 - Folds
BILEJOBOB - All-In $17.55
EUPHOLOGI - All-In(Raise) $31.83 to $35.83
YOEYYUTCH - All-In $0.35
EUPHOLOGI - returned ($0.98) : not called

Both villains turn over QQ, drawing dead against each other. Sexy style!

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mrhappy333

09-25-2007, 11:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TLR

There is no such thing as table image at the microstakes

You have to push about 20 hands in a row for people to start noticing

this is so true

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