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Old 09-14-2010, 08:17 PM     Post subject: Exploiting lagtard OOP and avoiding expoiting myself. #1 (permalink)  
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Villain on this table is a 51/49 with a 33% 3b and 80% cbet, but he has an 86% fold to 3b and has only 4bet once so far. This kinda threw me since it suggests we should probably 4bet bluff a massive range but fold a tonne when he wants to get it in. I have noticed that he sizes his good hands the same as his crap.

Part of me wanted to just call my whole opening range preflop and check to him on almost any flop and go from there, but it leaves me in such shitty spots OOP with 88, AT etc so often.

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1) What kinds of hands do you call with here?
2) What hands do you 4bet for value here. Are you folding any of these to a shove?
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:55 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Stats over how many hands? I would avoid flatting hands OOP in 3B pots. This is a good spot to 4B bluff as you are UTG and having any kind of blockers def would help. Its highly unlikely to get 5B jammed bluffed from a UTG 4b so you can 4b/fold happily. I still wouldn't 4b/call 88/AT tho even if you were CO here.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:04 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Would you 4b/ fold 88/AT or call oop or just fold?
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:12 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Wud 4b/fold AT
Wud Fold 88
Wud never call oop with either
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:57 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Ok thats interesting. So the AT is for blockers?
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:38 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Definitely a good spot to start flatting some stuff and c/r a ton of flops, 4b bluffing with blocker hands, and you can probably even get a bit tricky with some nut type hands though 4betting them does keep your 4b range more balanced.

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Wud 4b/fold AT
Wud Fold 88
Wud never call oop with either
though clearly, 4bing AT every time is pretty bad.

But probably more than anything else, you might as well tighten up and just value town him every time.
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:44 AM #7 (permalink)  
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4bet 88, AT probably and get it in. i cud be too loose but we gotta take his money b4 others do so worth the risk.
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