Originally Posted by spoonitnow

To clarify the math:

Bet = the bet size you're calling, pot = the pot when it's your turn to call.

Obviously you're calling $10.80. The pot when it's your turn to act on the end is the 4.55 that was in it going into the turn plus the 3.50 you put in with your bet and the 14.30 he put in with his raise for a total of $22.35.

So bet/(bet+pot) = 10.80/(10.80+22.35) = 0.3258 or 32.58%.

Originally Posted by deucesomething

ahhh thanks for that. I suppose it was right to call here. Would anyone have approached this hand differently considering we're deep?

Originally Posted by jaytoi

I think this may have been discussed in the BC before- where OP brought up that they should fold aces pre to an all in because they had 80 % ish equity and needed 85% or something silly like that. Just remember you can never be offered worse than 50% equity in a pot, because bets are always made 1 for 1. So if your calculation is showing anything more than 50% EV needed, you know somethings wrong. Preflop, you need about 48% ish usually depending on stack sizes, to stack off vs an opponents range (because of the additional blind money). If an all in call is around the size of the pot, you only need 33 percent (you are getting 2 to 1- villian is giving you the current pot (1) plus his bet (1) when ever you win, to what you risk (1 also).

Something useful to think about because if we have a PSB behind on the flop for some reason, we have an NFD on a Qxx two tone flop (with AK say), and villian puts us all in, if he has anything less than sets in his range it's probably correct to call ( as we only need 33% vs his range, and flush draw + possibly 6 additional outs- easily 33%).

Originally Posted by jaytoi

I think this may have been discussed in the BC before- where OP brought up that they should fold aces pre to an all in because they had 80 % ish equity and needed 85% or something silly like that. Just remember you can never be offered worse than 50% equity in a pot, because bets are always made 1 for 1. So if your calculation is showing anything more than 50% EV needed, you know somethings wrong. Preflop, you need about 48% ish usually depending on stack sizes, to stack off vs an opponents range (because of the additional blind money). If an all in call is around the size of the pot, you only need 33 percent (you are getting 2 to 1- villian is giving you the current pot (1) plus his bet (1) when ever you win, to what you risk (1 also).

Something useful to think about because if we have a PSB behind on the flop for some reason, we have an NFD on a Qxx two tone flop (with AK say), and villian puts us all in, if he has anything less than sets in his range it's probably correct to call ( as we only need 33% vs his range, and flush draw + possibly 6 additional outs- easily 33%).