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Old 07-10-2006, 12:53 AM     Post subject: EP PP, flop makes new pair #1 (permalink)  

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This happens to me alot and I have no clue how to play it. What do you guys do?

I have a low to mid pp and flop makes a different low-mid pair with rag. Im first to act.
Do I make an opening bet to see where everyones at? And if they just call what then?
Or do you just check and give it up to any bet on the flop?
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:58 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 you can do either. if there are a lot of people in the pot, i'd just check it down/fold to a bet. if its heads up or maybe two others, you might bet and hope they fold, checking it down/folding after that.
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Old 07-10-2006, 05:04 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 post some hand histories with some reads. This question is pretty difficult to answer in isolation.
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Old 07-10-2006, 06:46 AM #4 (permalink)  

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Sorry for the question being so general..but having no reads how would you play this?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($11.19)
UTG ($3.48)
UTG+1 ($13.50)
MP1 ($2.95)
Hero ($3.56)
MP3 ($8.59)
CO ($12.04)
Button ($2.48)
SB ($4.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7, 7.
3 folds, Hero calls $0.05, 2 folds, Button raises to $0.1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05.

Flop: ($0.32) 2, 2, 9 (3 players)
BB checks,
Hero ??

I usually make about a 4xBB-1/2 pot bet and take a tiny pot or get called to river by someone with a better hand.
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Old 07-10-2006, 03:12 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoooth
Sorry for the question being so general..but having no reads how would you play this?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($11.19)
UTG ($3.48)
UTG+1 ($13.50)
MP1 ($2.95)
Hero ($3.56)
MP3 ($8.59)
CO ($12.04)
Button ($2.48)
SB ($4.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7, 7.
3 folds, Hero calls $0.05, 2 folds, Button raises to $0.1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05.

Flop: ($0.32) 2, 2, 9 (3 players)
BB checks,
Hero ??

I usually make about a 4xBB-1/2 pot bet and take a tiny pot or get called to river by someone with a better hand.
Well your options as I see it are this:

Raise your PPs (I like to do this because when lets say my 77 hits the flop with an Ace, a lot of the time I will take a very sizable chunk of the villain's stack.) This has the benefit of being more likely to push out say the BB with A2 suited -- if I'm the BB, I'n not folding Ax suited to a minraise. Similarly, junk spades will call you down too because let's face it, despite what "correct" poker is, a lot of people at $5NL don't care because "well its a dime. it's a quarter. big deal. etc etc etc". Not to mention the fact that if a scare card comes off (A, K, whatever) that the villain doesn't have and you bet it, he'll likely give you credit for it and fold.

If you don't, betting the flop is fine, but if another spade or scare card (ace or what have you) comes off, don't be afraid to check behind it. No reason you should go to the mat like that with only a minraise to do the unlikely job of pushing out a 2.

edit: spelling > me.
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