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Pants_101
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07-26-2006, 12:03 PM
Post subject: Don't call
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Nottingham UK
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So everyone says that aggression is good, and that certainly makes sense to me. I also hear that calling is often bad, certainly calling down to the river with not a lot is clearly wrong. So what happens if I play my $10 SnG without ever calling? Only fold or raise? Is this even feasible or completely stupid? 
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biondino
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4-of-a-Kind
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Feasible. You'll probably win it.
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Pants_101
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2006
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I did see a guy doing something like this, he was raising and re-raising all over the place. He was going great till somone busted him out. I suspect he overdid the bluffs It made me think anyway. I might learn stuff I wouldn't otherwise come across playing my normal game.
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Vrax
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There is nothing wrong with calling and checkcalling if you know what you are doing. You can use it to pot control with light hands, dealing with way ahead/way behind situations, trapping, delayed steals, picking off bluffs. However if you have leaks of "loose passive" nature, then yes it's good to try out raise/fold style of playing and rarely calling. Then you will start to pick situations where calling is better than raising/folding and rediscover "call" button.
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"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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Pants_101
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Nottingham UK
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Yeah that makes sense, I don't pretend to think it's never good to call. Mainly I am interested in how the other players react to very aggressive play. I'm not sure what my leaks might be, I do the usual starting tight and loosening up as players get knocked out, and I am aggressive when I find myself against one opponnent. However I will fold overcards if someone bets a flop, fold in a flash to re-raises (post-flop) and am hopeless at defending my blinds. The blinds must be a leak, I don't know about the others. It's all situational I suppose. I just downloaded the SNGtool thingy so perhaps that can help me out.
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knoedel
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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I think calling is great, I rediscovered it after changing to a really aggressive style: It keeps the pot small and it disguises your hand since you don't give out information. I also love trapping people with check calling. In lower buy in sng's people love to do stop n' go (call a raise and go all in if checked to). So you have AK, raise and get one caller. You check on the K high flop and your opp. goes in you call (he is holding a weaker King 50% of the time and nothing or a lower pp the other 50% of the time).
I love it!
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In order to live you have to be ready to die!
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Pants_101
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Thanks for the tip. The only "play" I've really found so far is in a limped pot to always bet the flop if there is a pair showing, Even multiway this seems to work almost everytime at my stakes. After all if someone beats me to it and bets first I think well, no point trying to hit my overcard now if that guy has trips and I fold. Thing is if somone does hit trips are they not more likely to slow play? Maybe I should re-raise...
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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people have played entire sngs blind and done well. (blind as in, covered up that part of their screen and did their best to win)
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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