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littleogre
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02-15-2008, 08:22 PM
Post subject: Do people like this really exist ?
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Ok i am involved in a disscussion at another forum. Picture the following scene.
hero has AA and raises i ep then 2 more players reraise. Another player raises for 25bbs about 1/4th of his stack. your stack is effectively the same size. Most everyone including myself says you should raise or shove. One guy says you shold call as vilaan will fold to any raise.So where do we find these players that raise 1/4th of their stack but will never call a raise?
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kookaburra
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So much of this depends on the hero's image, it's hard to answer. The villains reraise is awfully big, looks like he doesn't want a call. Maybe that's the reasoning of folks that say he won't call a reraise.
Either way, I think you're fine with a smooth call here, and let him take the lead on the flop.
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Pythonic
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Originally Posted by kookaburra
So much of this depends on the hero's image, it's hard to answer. The villains reraise is awfully big, looks like he doesn't want a call. Maybe that's the reasoning of folks that say he won't call a reraise.
Either way, I think you're fine with a smooth call here, and let him take the lead on the flop.
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This hand isn't HU so I do not recommend flat calling here. Definitely push over.
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littleogre
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well acording to the dude that started we should call pf the shove the flop. he seems to think that a player that will never call a pf shove will call a flop shove.
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littleogre
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Lastly this is at micro stakes where people for the most part play no holdem foldem
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Unibomber14
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Maybe said 'One Guy' is an idiot? It's possible.
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shazbox
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Plus preflop it is bad for them to be calling with anything other than aa as well, on the flop them calling may be the right move.
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Pelion
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by littleogre
well acording to the dude that started we should call pf the shove the flop. he seems to think that a player that will never call a pf shove will call a flop shove.
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not necessarily. if hes bluffing hes going to desperation shove sometimes.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
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bigred
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Do people do stop and gos in cash games?
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LOL OPERATIONS
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littleogre
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Originally Posted by bigred
Do people do stop and gos in cash games?
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sure they do but please understand we are talking about micro stakes. The basis of the argument is will your average micro donk 4 bet then fold. I submit that the answer is maybe but not very damn likely If they do by cahnce fold picking up 25bbs+ is not such a terrible thing. So basically we shove they call And we win 100 bbs atleast 65 percent of the time. The 65 percent is just an estimate asbut i think it is a safe estimate. Any i'm geting of track. I just say that you will be hard pressed to find a micro stakes player that will fold to your shove in this spot.
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pgil
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I am a little unclear as to how many are left to act and exactly what the action has been thus far, but there may be an argument to call and allow another player behind to either call or shove. the pot looks as though it will be big enough that you don't have to worry about postflop play, as there is really only 1 move.
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Robb
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Let's put some numbers on this. You open-raise (3.5xBB), get rr'd twice (to 10xBB and then 30xBB), and a villain raises it 25BB more?
Either everyone's min-raising, or this villain is.
Besides that not making sense to me, I'm shoving here. I've got three villains who like their hands. In my experience, at least one of the three will shove at NL10. Don't know about their stacks, but if anyone folds and I'm against (a) short stack(s), there's plenty of loose change dead money lying on the table.
I really don't see the issue here. Instashove.
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jyms
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Nobody 3 bets, 4 bets or preflop bluffs at $5NL, $10NL, $25NL . They like the hand SHOVE.
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