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ponyboy
Old 11-07-2008, 09:53 PM     Post subject: Did I play these bad or are they just coolers? #1 (permalink)  
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Sorry about the format, hand converter doesn't work with Poker Office. I tried getting them emailed to me from Stars and tried inputting that and it still didn't work.

PokerStars Game #21840437028: Holdem Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/11/07 16:47:38 ET
Table Zelinda 10-max Seat #10 is the button
Seat 1: freddy31030 ($2.62 in chips)
Seat 2: rolffey ($3.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($3.32 in chips)
Seat 4: alekcac ($1.76 in chips)
Seat 5: FranzHugo ($3.02 in chips)
Seat 6: AlexanderTa ($6.85 in chips)
Seat 7: suales ($0.77 in chips)
Seat 8: FLPairithead ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 9: chawny ($1.92 in chips)
Seat 10: I_eat_deuces ($1.89 in chips)
freddy31030: posts small blind $0.02
rolffey: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qd Jd]
Hero: calls $0.05
alekcac: calls $0.05
FranzHugo: calls $0.05
AlexanderTa: folds
suales: folds
FLPairithead: folds
chawny: calls $0.05
I_eat_deuces: folds
freddy31030: calls $0.03
rolffey: checks
*** FLOP *** [9s Qs 6h]
freddy31030: checks
rolffey: checks
Hero: bets $0.05
alekcac: calls $0.05
FranzHugo: calls $0.05
chawny: calls $0.05
freddy31030: folds
rolffey: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [9s Qs 6h] [5c]
rolffey: checks
Hero: bets $0.10
alekcac: raises $0.10 to $0.20
FranzHugo: folds
chawny: folds
rolffey: folds
Hero: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [9s Qs 6h 5c] [Qh]
Hero: bets $0.10
alekcac: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Hero: raises $0.10 to $0.30
alekcac: raises $0.10 to $0.40
Betting is capped
Hero: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
alekcac: shows [Kh Qc] (three of a kind, Queens)
Hero: mucks hand [Qd Jd] (three of a kind, Queens)
alekcac collected $1.67 from pot

Hand #2:

PokerStars Game #21841648437: Hold'em Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/11/07 17:31:48 ET
Table 'Zelinda' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: pp1590 ($2.66 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($1.13 in chips)
Seat 4: beaverolindy ($3.27 in chips)
Seat 6: AlexanderTa ($6.75 in chips)
Seat 7: suales ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 8: miquelmota ($1.34 in chips)
Seat 9: chawny ($1.75 in chips)
Seat 10: manuvista ($1.79 in chips)
suales: posts small blind $0.02
Ceccii joins the table at seat #5
miquelmota: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8c 9c]
chawny: folds
manuvista: calls $0.05
pp1590: folds
Hero: calls $0.05
beaverolindy: raises $0.05 to $0.10
AlexanderTa: folds
suales: folds
miquelmota: calls $0.05
manuvista: calls $0.05
Hero: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6d 8d]
miquelmota: checks
manuvista: checks
Hero: checks
beaverolindy: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 6d 8d] [7s]
miquelmota: bets $0.10
manuvista: folds
Hero: calls $0.10
beaverolindy: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6d 8d 7s] [8s]
miquelmota: bets $0.10
Hero: raises $0.10 to $0.20
miquelmota: raises $0.10 to $0.30
Hero: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
miquelmota: shows [7h 7c] (a full house, Sevens full of Eights)
Hero: mucks hand [8c 9c] (three of a kind, Eights)
miquelmota collected $1.17 from pot

Should I have bet the flop here with 2nd pair? Not sure if it would have driven him off but...

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Your bet-sizing is really, really, really bad.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:24 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Your bet-sizing is really, really, really bad.
Did you notice it's Limit?
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:25 PM #4 (permalink)  
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It's limit you tard.

I think you gave too much action on the river in both hands. Probably a missed flop bet in the second hand.
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Your bet-sizing is really, really, really bad.
Your ability to notice that he's playing LHE is, really, really bad.

1st hand: Standard fwiw.
2nd hand: Cap river millions of hands pay you off.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:27 PM #6 (permalink)  
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It's limit you tard.

I think you gave too much action on the river in both hands. Probably a missed flop bet in the second hand.
It's .05/.10 you don't think capping with trips is +ev? I think we're ahead more than we're behind when he 3 bets, and he's definitely calling with worse.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:32 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Minus a read, most people are pretty passive and straight forward on the river.
 
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:33 PM #8 (permalink)  
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It's limit you tard.

I think you gave too much action on the river in both hands. Probably a missed flop bet in the second hand.
I have been finding that when they go crazy on the river it usually means they hit a card but more often than not it's two pair. However, they will call pretty much any bet with 2nd pair, etc.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:41 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I covered that in the first sentence. Observant group.
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:10 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Wall of text crits you for 9999.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:17 AM #12 (permalink)  
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Wall of text crits you for 9999.
zomg quad 9'z, ship it.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:36 AM #13 (permalink)  
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too bad it's omaha
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:38 AM #14 (permalink)  
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not difficult to convert

0.05/0.1 Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($3.32)
UTG 1 alekcac ($1.76)
UTG 2 FranzHugo ($3.02)
MP1 AlexanderTa ($6.85)
MP2 suales ($0.77)
MP3 FLPairithead ($2.10)
CO chawny ($1.92)
BTN I_eat_deuces ($1.89)
SB freddy31030 ($2.62)
BB rolffey ($3.60)

Pre-flop: (1.4 SB, 10 players) Hero is UTG
Hero calls, alekcac calls, FranzHugo calls, 3 folds, chawny calls, 1 fold, freddy31030 calls, rolffey checks

Flop: (6.0 SB, 6 players)
freddy31030 checks, rolffey checks, Hero bets, alekcac calls, FranzHugo calls, chawny calls, freddy31030 folds, rolffey calls

Turn: (5.5 BB, 5 players)
rolffey checks, Hero bets, alekcac raises, 2 folds, rolffey folds, Hero calls

River: (9.5 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, alekcac raises, Hero 3-bets, alekcac 4-bets, Hero calls
alekcac shows:

alekcac wins 16.7 BB ( won 9.7 BB )
freddy31030 lost 0.5 BB
rolffey lost 1.0 BB
Hero lost 7.0 BB
FranzHugo lost 1.0 BB
chawny lost 1.0 BB
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Your bet-sizing is really, really, really bad.
as a level, though, this may be his best post ever

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
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