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giallorosso
Old 11-24-2006, 08:52 PM     Post subject: did I play so badly??.... #1 (permalink)  
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Today I happend to loose an entire buyin in three hands, I know it wasn t just bad luck.......
any comment would be appreciated
thanks

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Button ($23.25)
SB ($35.30)
Hero ($45.25)
UTG ($23.65)
UTG+1 ($9.15)
MP1 ($54.30)
MP2 ($71.50)
CO ($84.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, K.
UTG calls $0.50, 5 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 6, 4, A (3 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50.

Turn: ($3) 8 (3 players)
SB bets $2.5, Hero calls $2.50, UTG folds.

River: ($8) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7.

Final Pot: $22


villain had AA and won with a full house

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UTG ($22)
MP ($57.60)
Hero ($33.20)
SB ($22.35)
BB ($72.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, 8.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) T, 2, 8 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB folds, MP calls $1.50.

Turn: ($6) J (2 players)
MP bets $7.5, Hero raises to $15, MP calls $7.50.

River: ($36) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $36

villain here had 7 9 and won with a straight

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($74.35)
Hero ($15.70)
Button ($21.85)
SB ($71.55)
BB ($84.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T, J.
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 7, 9, 5 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2, Hero calls $2, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($6) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.5, Hero raises to $11, UTG calls $5.50.

River: ($28) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $15.5, Hero calls $2.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $45.70

villain had 8 9 and won with a full house

btw villain was always the same guy and i ll be laughin also now
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:04 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Raise when you are winning(flush, you did good), don't raise when you think opponent might have a big hand(opponent overbet with straight on turn, bells should be ringing as you are on a draw to a flush or a boat, don't raise).

Hand 2 was the only hand I think you could have avoided a larger loss than you did. But it's fucking hard to get away from 2 pair plus flush draw.


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Old 11-24-2006, 09:06 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 - I would raise the flop over that weak bet. As played, raise the turn. You want his stack, not 10BB. River call fine.

Hand 2 - 1) if you're playing T8s from the button raise
2) raise more on flop, $4
3) donk over-bet on turn: this is often 2 pair, I guess sometimes stronger. I would just call, but I guess the min-raise bought you a cheap show-down

You're going to loose $$ with flopped 2 pair vs turned straight. You didn't loose too much.

Hand 3 - 1) If you're going to play TJ from the button raise.
2) fold the flop, you're drawing to a gutshot, the overs aren't very strong.
3) turn, raise more - oh, $2 behind, just push.

This hand is really a bad beat

Don't play un-suited connectors while short stacked. You need all the implied odds you can get with those hands.
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:13 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Why didn't you raise the turn in hand 1?

Hand two I'd play just about the same.

Hand three was a pretty terrible flop call.
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:52 PM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 1 raise turn
hand 2
hand 3 fold preflop and dont play short stacked
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Old 11-24-2006, 11:27 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I raise that turn, as played you cant fold the river.

Hand 2: I would consider this a fairly standard raise PF, limping is probably +EV but raising is without a doubt a better play [in most circumstances]. With your stack size I just push this turn, a minraise doesnt make a ton of sense. This river is pretty opponent specific and against some Id definitely bet without a ton of though knowing it has a positive expectation, but readless I dont think a check behind is horrible. However, that advice was for a full stack, given your stack Im probably pushing this river and expecting to get paid off by a worse hand here, but I think it is close. Either way, Id rather get it in on the turn.

Hand 3: In MP Im folding this a huge percent of the time, and if I am playing it I am raising. Given your stack size though this should be an auto-fold. Reload PF man, honestly dont just let your stack drop this low. Same advice as before, push the turn, what is the sense in leaving yourself with $2 for the river?
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