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dannyd267
Old 12-20-2005, 12:38 AM     Post subject: did I play this right or am I just a chicken #1 (permalink)  
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new to table so no reads. I got beat by bottom trips twice yesterday so I was probably being too conservative on the river. I was paranoid. I was thinking he flopped a lucky straight or maybe higher trips.. Was the check on the river the right thing to do or should I have put him all in. In hindsight, he probably would've called. I have lost a couple of buy ins in the last couple of days and have decided that I need to hunker down and play cards. I just don't want to become pussified.

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0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Mon Dec 19 20:23:56 EST 2005
Table Table 68491 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: headcase8 ( $30.25)
Seat 2: clswe ( $22.40)
Seat 3: dannyd267 ( $43)
Seat 4: toughguy__ ( $8.25)
Seat 5: OutCorrect ( $5)
Seat 6: rice7780 ( $31.70)
Seat 7: stewmeat333 ( $9.30)
Seat 8: sphrth ( $35.72)
Seat 9: GP_NEWFIE ( $36.15)
Seat 10: Imx1082 ( $24.45)
sphrth posts small blind (0.10)
GP_NEWFIE posts big blind (0.25)
OutCorrect posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to dannyd267 [ 6h, 6s ]
Imx1082 folds.
headcase8 folds.
clswe folds.
dannyd267 calls (0.25)
toughguy__ folds.
OutCorrect checks.
rice7780 folds.
stewmeat333 calls (0.25)
sphrth calls (0.15)
GP_NEWFIE checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 8h, Ts ]
sphrth checks.
GP_NEWFIE checks.
dannyd267 bets (0.50)
OutCorrect folds.
stewmeat333 calls (0.50)
sphrth raises (1.50) to 1.50
GP_NEWFIE folds.
dannyd267 calls (1)
stewmeat333 calls (1)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
sphrth checks.
dannyd267 bets (5)
stewmeat333 folds.
sphrth raises (10) to 10
dannyd267 calls (5)
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
sphrth checks.
dannyd267 checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $24.50 | Rake: $1.25
Board: [ 6c 8h Ts 2h 3c ]
headcase8 balance $30.25, didn't bet (folded)
clswe balance $22.40, didn't bet (folded)
dannyd267 balance $55.75, bet $11.75, collected $24.50, net +$12.75 [ 6h 6s ] [ three of a kind, sixes -- Ts,8h,6h,6s,6c ]
toughguy__ balance $8.25, didn't bet (folded)
OutCorrect balance $4.75, lost $0.25 (folded)
rice7780 balance $31.70, didn't bet (folded)
stewmeat333 balance $7.55, lost $1.75 (folded)
sphrth balance $23.97, lost $11.75 [ Td 8d ] [ two pairs, tens and eights -- Td,Ts,8d,8h,6c ]
GP_NEWFIE balance $35.90, lost $0.25 (folded)
Imx1082 balance $24.45, didn't bet (folded)
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:43 AM #2 (permalink)  
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be more aggressive
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:41 AM #3 (permalink)  
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he raised the flop.... then he rasied the turn. he doesnt have 45.

I minraise the turn and then look to put him allin on the river.
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:56 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I minraise the turn and then look to put him allin on the river.
What hands are going to call ur all in for 43$ in a pot of 25$ ?
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:43 AM #5 (permalink)  
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definitely raise as much as you think he'll call on the river, i would never even think about folding a set at these limits except for obvious cases like 4 suited cards on board or something.
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Old 12-20-2005, 08:04 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I would bet more on the flop, and I would definitly reraise the flop.

On the turn I would push his reraise


 
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:13 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Push/raise huge his reraise on the turn

Deffinitly bet the river, try to get all-in
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:24 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I would bet more on the flop, and I would definitly reraise the flop.

On the turn I would push his reraise
Yes, I think the .50 bet on the flop was pretty wimpy. Then he raised me and "took control" and then I started thinking he might have bigger trips or flopped a straight. I was trying to keep more people in the pot with my mini raise. I don't know if that was mistake or anything.

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Old 12-20-2005, 12:37 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I would bet more on the flop, and I would definitly reraise the flop.

On the turn I would push his reraise
Yes, I think the .50 bet on the flop was pretty wimpy. Then he raised me and "took control" and then I started thinking he might have bigger trips or flopped a straight. I was trying to keep more people in the pot with my mini raise. I don't know if that was mistake or anything.

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With 4 people seeing the flop and str8 draws on the board I would not try to keep too many people in the pot.
You are in a pretty good position, you got someone who obviously likes this flop, isolate him and try to get as many chips as you can into the pot.
If he has a higher set or he had 79 for a str8 I would pay him off, since msot times you are ahead.
He probably had T9 or similar and got overely attached to the hand


 
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:59 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I minraise the turn and then look to put him allin on the river.
What hands are going to call ur all in for 43$ in a pot of 25$ ?
Villain only has $35. If i reraise the turn to $20 there will be $40 in the pot on the river and villain will only have about $15 left.
He calls that with anything hes come this far with unless it is a draw in which case he folds to any bet anyway.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:33 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Push/raise huge his reraise on the turn

Deffinitly bet the river, try to get all-in
Also, don't worry about a higher set. Nobody here will tell you to fold out of fear of a higher set. Of course I lost my stack yesterday to a higher set, but it's better than losing to somebody hitting a gutshot against you against all odds.
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:42 PM #12 (permalink)  
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You made two mistakes here
1. You thought about a related hand where u got beat instead of judging this hand on its own merits
2. You sort-of slow played on a dangerous flop and put yourself in a position you didnt need to be.
Note: if you think he calls, get it all in on the turn.
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:03 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:30 PM #14 (permalink)  
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re-raise the flop; you don't want that heads-up. I don't mind your river check after that min-raise on the river with no reads. The flopped str8 is out there and a bad player could easily think the check raise will work on that river. The fact you did check shows that yoe realize you might have been beat which is good - the fact you didn't get all his money is bad... but it's more results oriented than anything else.
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