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Gibbdash
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12-26-2009, 11:41 AM
Post subject: Did I misplay this?
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PokerStars Game #37201201914: Tournament #241010176, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/12/26 6:35:13 ET
Table '241010176 20' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: $dambi$90 (4945 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: Horrorfresse (11270 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: AKApokerAKA (3300 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Absynth013 (3988 in chips)
Seat 5: TJDasNeves (7990 in chips)
Seat 6: Tiot10 (7975 in chips)
Seat 7: Discipulo46 (24000 in chips)
Seat 8: PureBudz (21285 in chips)
Seat 9: Gibbdashdash (89837 in chips)
$dambi$90: posts the ante 50
Horrorfresse: posts the ante 50
AKApokerAKA: posts the ante 50
Absynth013: posts the ante 50
TJDasNeves: posts the ante 50
Tiot10: posts the ante 50
Discipulo46: posts the ante 50
PureBudz: posts the ante 50
Gibbdashdash: posts the ante 50
Gibbdashdash: posts small blind 300
$dambi$90: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gibbdashdash [Jc Ts]
Horrorfresse: folds
AKApokerAKA: folds
AKApokerAKA is disconnected
AKApokerAKA is connected
Absynth013: folds
TJDasNeves: folds
Tiot10: folds
Discipulo46: raises 1200 to 1800
PureBudz: folds
Gibbdashdash: calls 1500
$dambi$90: folds
*** FLOP *** [6d Tc Js]
Gibbdashdash: checks
Discipulo46: bets 2900
Gibbdashdash: raises 4100 to 7000
Discipulo46: raises 15150 to 22150 and is all-in
Gibbdashdash: calls 15150
*** TURN *** [6d Tc Js] [As]
*** RIVER *** [6d Tc Js As] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gibbdashdash: shows [Jc Ts] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
Discipulo46: shows [Jh Ad] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Discipulo46 collected 48950 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 48950 | Rake 0
Board [6d Tc Js As 7d]
Seat 1: $dambi$90 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Horrorfresse folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: AKApokerAKA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Absynth013 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: TJDasNeves folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Tiot10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Discipulo46 showed [Jh Ad] and won (48950) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 8: PureBudz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Gibbdashdash (small blind) showed [Jc Ts] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
May be important to note, we are about 10 players from the money here, and I was chipleader, so I was playing fairly aggressive. The table had tightened up MAJORLY, and I had stolen villian's blinds 3 orbits in a row, so Im not surprised he wanted to steal some back. I wanted to get a flop out, play aggressive, and see how it went. When he shoves, I put his range on AJ or better, but likely AJ, and I was correct.
Maybe I was too loose preflop, but as I mentioned, I was seeing a lot of flops, as noone was playing much at all, and I wanted to bully.
Thoughts?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 300/600 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB (t4945)
UTG (t11270)
UTG+1 (t3300)
MP1 (t3988)
MP2 (t7990)
MP3 (t7975)
CO (t24000)
Button (t21285)
Hero (SB) (t89837)
Hero's M: 66.55
Preflop: Hero is SB with J , 10
5 folds, CO bets t1800, 1 fold, Hero calls t1500, 1 fold
Flop: (t4650) 6 , 10 , J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t2900, Hero raises to t7000, CO raises to t22150 (All-In), Hero calls t15150
Turn: (t48950) A (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t48950) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: t48950
HE//O Gibbdash, If you post a hand for discussion, you should leave out the results, dont even hint at them.
and try to convert them to something like the above format , a site called weaktight,com will help you do this , its kinder on the eyes.
When you have 10 posts under your belt, you can use the FTR converter .
Lastly, FTR folk will discuss your hands If you make a fair attempt to put your opponent on some kind of range, and exlain what you know about the relevant table. which you kinda done. but your attempt only included what he actually had.
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andyr114
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Good advice
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andyr114
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Good advice
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eragotte
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Flush
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I dont really see any reason to see a flop here. Playing aggressively is NOT calling a bunch of raises with a big stack and an average hand out of position. Fold this hand and then pound the button instead.
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JKDS
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12-28-2009, 01:21 AM
Post subject: Re: Did I misplay this?
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#6 (permalink)
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Full House
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Location: Chandler, AZ
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Gibbdash
The table had tightened up MAJORLY, and I had stolen villian's blinds 3 orbits in a row, so Im not surprised he wanted to steal some back. I wanted to get a flop out, play aggressive, and see how it went. When he shoves, I put his range on AJ or better, but likely AJ, and I was correct.
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Im confused here. He's the CO and we're in the sb at a 9 handed table...so in order to steal his blind we'd have to be stealing from UTG or UTG+1 correct? This is likely bad in a tournament setting where we dont have much to gain since we're leading.
@preflop: calling raises out of position with a holding that is likely behind someones opening range is to me, one of those "never do this" kind of things...though obviously nothing in poker is never.
As others have said, if you want to be playing aggressively and pushing people around, do so in position. Abuse the button, CO, and HJ, do isolation raises and such where we have positional advantage. This way, even if we end up playing a weaker hand...it is only a small mistake since we have an edge postflop and are in position.
@flop: DONT PUT PEOPLE ON SINGLE HANDS. The biggest mistake anyone ever makes playing no limit holdem is not considering a RANGE of hands that villains might have. Dont make this mistake. Surely CO could be playing 66 this way correct? Or another JT?
Anyways, we're happy to get it in here obviously, so now the question is just about how to go about it. Without better info on villain, its kind of hard to debate whether c/c, c/r, b/c, or b/r is the best play, but we got it in so GJ.
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