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FyrFytr998
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07-29-2004, 04:14 PM
Post subject: Did I make the right move?
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Milford,Ct.
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Played a tourney last night. To summerize.
1. Mid/Late game (200/400 blinds)and I'm the short stack (2400 in chips)
2. Dealt K/K on the button
3. Folded all the way around to me. SB and BB have double the amount of my chips.
4. I push all in 2400. SB calls BB folds.
Well long story short, He shows A/8 off. And catches an Ace on the flop and turn.
Should I have just raised? Should I have just called?
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Karsk
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Join Date: May 2004
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You got the situation you wanted here. he got lucky and caught an ace. You probably had him thinking you were blind stealing and called you with a 3 out hand. I think i would have done the same, especially if it was getting down and i was choosing to play more marginal hands.
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Humphrind
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07-29-2004, 04:26 PM
Post subject: Re: Did I make the right move?
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,887
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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998
Played a tourney last night. To summerize.
1. Mid/Late game (200/400 blinds)and I'm the short stack (2400 in chips)
2. Dealt K/K on the button
3. Folded all the way around to me. SB and BB have double the amount of my chips.
4. I push all in 2400. SB calls BB folds.
Well long story short, He shows A/8 off. And catches an Ace on the flop and turn.
Should I have just raised? Should I have just called?
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You probably were a little bit over-aggressive. But you did the right thing. You got your chips in the pot when you had the best of it. Luckily you had a call, and unluckily he out-drew you.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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fishstick
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Posts: 1,405
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i would have done the same - he just happened to catch one of his three outs.
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i hate what i have become to escape what i hated being...
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hig13
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Illinois
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To mix it up, I like call and then go all in if raised. If not raised, see the flop. If the guy checks when the Ace comes up then bet big with a possible all-in. If the guy bets strong after the Ace is flopped, avoid going all-in if at all possible.
I think you made the stronger play, but this is just an option I like to use.
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Insane people are always sure that they are fine. It is only the sane people who are willing to admit that they are crazy.
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Dagouch
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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with pocket kings and being short stack i would have done the same. it's just the aces got ya. better than two low pair
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FyrFytr998
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Milford,Ct.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
well I dunno about going all in pre flop.....Id throw down a 3x bb bet and look at the flop first
odds of an Ace on the flop when you have K/K - 100%
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If it were earlier I'd agree, but the raises were getting bolder and bolder. So I figured I'd eleimnate any hedging on my part. I feel better that people are saying it wasn't a bone head move. It happens.
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maxxscam
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
well I dunno about going all in pre flop.....Id throw down a 3x bb bet and look at the flop first
odds of an Ace on the flop when you have K/K - 100%
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yea an ace always does seem to flop, but luckily sometimes your opponent calls reraises preflop with a hand like 7 8 against it.
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Toasty
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: England UK
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Originally Posted by maxxscam
yea an ace always does seem to flop, but luckily sometimes your opponent calls reraises preflop with a hand like 7 8 against it.
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and thats the time the flop hits 6 4 5 or all one suit that you don't have...
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Poker is all about the long long long long long long long term . . .
Barney's back . . . back again . . .
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Fnord
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Originally Posted by maxxscam
yea an ace always does seem to flop, but luckily sometimes your opponent calls reraises preflop with a hand like 7 8 against it.
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Quite often QQ/JJ/TT and you're glad you went all-in pre-flop.
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Krapp
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2004
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All-in all the way. Your making 25% on your stack and the A/8 made a bad call (depends on their stack and total # of opps).
If they are loose and scare easily: I might consider a limp, but you are playing with fire since your are probably busted with a bad flop. In my mind any raise from you is an all-in bet.
If they are loose and dont scare easily. A 2xBB bet vs an all-in could also be a good strategy. Keep in mind, I would eventually have all my chips in the pot with KK no matter what hit on the flop/turn/river. I just might play it different if I know an all-in will definately scare them out.
I would also show them my hand after they fold (preflop) so maybe my next all-in wont get contested either.
If the blinds are bigger in the same situation, definately AI is the way to go.
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phildo
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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dont get down man, u put all ur chips on the line with the best hand, what more could u want, i went all in wit, A>K and got a call from A 10 river card showed a ten, and he badly outdrew me, it happens, just always seems to happen to me 
but u Def. made the right call
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