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thizzSantaCruz
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09-06-2007, 02:43 AM
Post subject: deepstack observations
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I have watched the 2 HSP S4 episodes and one thing really jumped out at me and caught my attention. It seems when playing deepstacked the default lines by these players was to check-call with top pair hands. After thinking a little bit I came to the conclusion that it was probably because these type of hands cannot hold up to a raise. I know at higher stakes I have heard the approach if you cannot call a raise why bet a hand? (This might only apply on the river I am not sure). To me this would make a lot of sense becasue by check calling they are actually keeping the size of the pot down, and while playing deep you do not want a lot of money going in with top pair.
One other thing that stood out was a lot of the bets were below half the pot which I thought was very interesting. When playing deep people value hands with implied odds a lot more, and by betting so small isn't it an invitation for drawing hands to jump in?
Any thoughts, comments, other oddities people have noticed in deepstack play would be great. And of course I am talking about when you are playing other opponents that are proficient in deepstack play and not your normal online donk that is still stacking off wtih TPTK 300bb+ deep.
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bigspenda73
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those guys in HSP play so weak/tight, it's quite boring to me.
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HSP is about the only poker show worth a damn anymore. Playing 30bb deep for over a million dollars and getting it in on a coin flip was old two years ago.
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
those guys in HSP play so weak/tight, it's quite boring to me.
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Tight??!?!? WTF? They are playing 9 handed!!!!
As for the calls with top pair, it's good poker when 100bb+ deep. That's why I don't play that deep anymore online for meaningful stakes, it implies that the turn will give you enough information to make a commitment plan. Online players at 2/4 and up are so aggressive and largely unknown that I really want to just shove in some spots.
Also, some of those guys make ugly techincal mistakes but got there because they read hands way way way better than you (and probably ran good to boot.)
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LOL, the people get escorted in? Bodyguards carrying their buyin?
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