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Old 11-08-2008, 01:56 AM     Post subject: Deep in MTT against DONKEY whats correct play? #1 (permalink)  
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villian is a huge donkey
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Hero's M: 49.60

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, 2
Hero calls t30, 2 folds, Button raises to t60, 1 fold, BB calls t30, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t195) 8, Q, J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t30, Button calls t30, BB calls t30

Turn: (t285) K (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t30, Button raises to t60, 1 fold, Hero calls t30

River: (t405) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t30, Button raises to t60, Hero raises to t90, Button raises to t120, Hero folds

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Old 11-08-2008, 01:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i'd play it the same, but i might look him up on the river to get a read for later on in the tournament.

i can understand the fold tho, we're crushed when he 4b like that...

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Old 11-08-2008, 02:13 AM #3 (permalink)  
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why didn't the bet double on the turn? is this spread limit?
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:24 AM #5 (permalink)  
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why didn't the bet double on the turn? is this spread limit?
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:24 AM #6 (permalink)  
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opp has Q3 every time

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:17 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 Wait so, what...?

We minbet the drawy flop w/2nd pair?
Minbet the turn as well?
Get in a MINWAR on the river?!!?!?

....in No-Limit?

I'm pretty sure this hand is horribly played by all involved,

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Old 11-08-2008, 03:23 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:29 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Wait so, what...?

We minbet the drawy flop w/2nd pair?
Minbet the turn as well?
Get in a MINWAR on the river?!!?!?

....in No-Limit?

I'm pretty sure this hand is horribly played by all involved,

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Old 11-08-2008, 03:34 AM #10 (permalink)  
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I'm soooo confused.
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:38 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Wait so, what...?

We minbet the drawy flop w/2nd pair?
Minbet the turn as well?
Get in a MINWAR on the river?!!?!?

....in No-Limit?

I'm pretty sure this hand is horribly played by all involved,

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[x] fail
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Wait so, what...?

We minbet the drawy flop w/2nd pair?
Minbet the turn as well?
Get in a MINWAR on the river?!!?!?

....in No-Limit?

I'm pretty sure this hand is horribly played by all involved,

Ill
[x] Fail!

[x] fail
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[x] Fail!
I'm soooo confused.

[x] double fail
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:39 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Wait so, what...?

We minbet the drawy flop w/2nd pair?
Minbet the turn as well?
Get in a MINWAR on the river?!!?!?

....in No-Limit?

I'm pretty sure this hand is horribly played by all involved,

Ill
[x] Fail!

[x] fail

[x] triple fail
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:40 AM #15 (permalink)  
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 There's only one thing wrong how OP played the hand. He min-reraises the river to 90, I would have made it 100

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Old 11-08-2008, 05:30 AM #16 (permalink)  
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vaks. You played this as bad as you possibly could.
Fold preflop.
As played: check flop, check turn, check-call smallish bet on the river.

Explaining to you what you did wrong here would mean teaching you how to play NLHE from scratch, which is beyond the scope of one thread.

Read the beginners digest, watch the small stakes videos.
Don't take offense to that. You have no idea what you are doing playing this game. But you're here to learn, I hope.
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:38 AM #17 (permalink)  
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i can understand the fold tho, we're crushed when he 4b like that...
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There's only one thing wrong how OP played the hand. He min-reraises the river to 90, I would have made it 100
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:40 AM #18 (permalink)  
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vaks. You played this as bad as you possibly could.
Fold preflop.
As played: check flop, check turn, check-call smallish bet on the river.

Explaining to you what you did wrong here would mean teaching you how to play NLHE from scratch, which is beyond the scope of one thread.

Read the beginners digest, watch the small stakes videos.
Don't take offense to that. You have no idea what you are doing playing this game. But you're here to learn, I hope.
[x] Epic Fail!
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Old 11-08-2008, 05:44 AM #19 (permalink)  
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 God beginners forum always makes me laugh.

Almost as the good as the fold AA preflop in the sng forum thread.
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Old 11-08-2008, 06:24 AM #20 (permalink)  
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:08 AM #21 (permalink)  

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 [X] op is a level
[X] HH is forged
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:03 PM #22 (permalink)  
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HH ain't forged. I was there for the crying fold.

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
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PokerStars Game #21848403133: Tournament #119069199, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/11/07 21:52:19 ET
Table '119069199 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: 500lbgorilla (7941 in chips)
Seat 2: Poker_Muzz (1720 in chips)
Seat 5: animal_chin9 (1370 in chips)
Seat 6: wems (2232 in chips)
Seat 7: badgers_uk (2202 in chips)
Seat 8: ihategnome (1035 in chips)
Poker_Muzz: posts small blind 15
animal_chin9: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 500lbgorilla [3h Qd]
wems: calls 30
badgers_uk: folds
ihategnome: folds
500lbgorilla: raises 30 to 60
Poker_Muzz: folds
500lbgorilla said, "ez game"
animal_chin9: calls 30
wems: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [8h Qc Jc]
animal_chin9: checks
wems: bets 30
500lbgorilla: calls 30
animal_chin9: calls 30
*** TURN *** [8h Qc Jc] [Ks]
animal_chin9: checks
wems: bets 30
500lbgorilla: raises 30 to 60
animal_chin9 said, "omg"
animal_chin9: folds
wems: calls 30
*** RIVER *** [8h Qc Jc Ks] [3c]
500lbgorilla said, "squeezered"
wems: bets 30
500lbgorilla: raises 30 to 60
wems: raises 30 to 90
animal_chin9 said, "collusion imo"
500lbgorilla: raises 30 to 120
badgers_uk said, "careful now"
ihategnome said, "limp saw"
badgers_uk said, "the fifth raise is always the nuts"
wems: folds
Uncalled bet (30) returned to 500lbgorilla
500lbgorilla collected 585 from pot
500lbgorilla: doesn't show hand
500lbgorilla said, "shove woulda been sick"
ihategnome said, "hahahahahhah"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 585 | Rake 0
Board [8h Qc Jc Ks 3c]
Seat 1: 500lbgorilla (button) collected (585)
Seat 2: Poker_Muzz (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: animal_chin9 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: wems folded on the River
Seat 7: badgers_uk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ihategnome folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:58 PM #25 (permalink)  
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Slowroll city!

PokerStars Game #21848194113: Tournament #119069199, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/11/07 21:43:21 ET
Table '119069199 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: 500lbgorilla (2979 in chips)
Seat 2: Poker_Muzz (1690 in chips)
Seat 3: XxStacks60xX (660 in chips)
Seat 4: KillsAids (2151 in chips)
Seat 5: animal_chin9 (1940 in chips)
Seat 6: wems (1390 in chips)
Seat 7: badgers_uk (2670 in chips)
Seat 8: ihategnome (1090 in chips)
Seat 9: Hawkfan79 (1930 in chips)
ihategnome: posts small blind 10
Hawkfan79: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 500lbgorilla [Ad Kd]
animal_chin9 said, "rogged"
500lbgorilla: raises 22 to 42
Poker_Muzz: folds
XxStacks60xX: folds
500lbgorilla said, "try something new"
KillsAids: calls 42
animal_chin9: folds
badgers_uk said, "fwiw i think killsaids should have 4bet/folded"
KillsAids said, "i call for set value!"
Poker_Muzz said, "lol"
XxStacks60xX said, "lol badgers"
XxStacks60xX said, "obviously"
wems: calls 42
badgers_uk: folds
ihategnome: folds
Hawkfan79: calls 22
*** FLOP *** [6d 3d 4d]
Poker_Muzz said, "pwnd"
XxStacks60xX said, "wtf"
KillsAids said, "omg wems gonna set>set me"
XxStacks60xX said, "now that flop comes!"
Hawkfan79: bets 141
KillsAids said, "he has 66 i has 33"
KillsAids said, ""
500lbgorilla: raises 151 to 292
KillsAids: raises 497 to 789
wems: folds
500lbgorilla said, "u cant call"
wems said, "OMG"
wems said, "AA AGAIN WTF"
Hawkfan79: raises 1099 to 1888 and is all-in
500lbgorilla: raises 1049 to 2937 and is all-in
KillsAids: calls 1320 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (828) returned to 500lbgorilla
animal_chin9 said, "im pretty confident i can fold my way to victory"
XxStacks60xX said, "All in degree moment?"
badgers_uk said, "o my"
*** TURN *** [6d 3d 4d] [7c]
KillsAids said, ":O"
*** RIVER *** [6d 3d 4d 7c] [5s]
Hawkfan79 said, "5d"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
500lbgorilla: shows [Ad Kd] (a flush, Ace high)
KillsAids: shows [3s 3c] (a straight, Three to Seven)
500lbgorilla said, "ez game"
500lbgorilla collected 442 from side pot
Hawkfan79: shows [4c 2d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
500lbgorilla collected 5842 from main pot
badgers_uk said, "slowrolled"
XxStacks60xX said, "PWNED!"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6284 Main pot 5842. Side pot 442. | Rake 0
Board [6d 3d 4d 7c 5s]
Seat 1: 500lbgorilla showed [Ad Kd] and won (6284) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: Poker_Muzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: XxStacks60xX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: KillsAids showed [3s 3c] and lost with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 5: animal_chin9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: wems folded on the Flop
Seat 7: badgers_uk (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ihategnome (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Hawkfan79 (big blind) showed [4c 2d] and lost with a straight, Three to Seven

PokerStars Game #21848303324: Tournament #119069199, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/11/07 21:48:01 ET
Table '119069199 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 500lbgorilla (7175 in chips)
Seat 2: Poker_Muzz (1645 in chips)
Seat 3: XxStacks60xX (585 in chips)
Seat 5: animal_chin9 (1550 in chips)
Seat 6: wems (1888 in chips)
Seat 7: badgers_uk (2577 in chips)
Seat 8: ihategnome (1080 in chips)
animal_chin9: posts small blind 15
wems: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 500lbgorilla [Qh 5c]
badgers_uk: folds
wems said, "see how good of a play that is?"
ihategnome: folds
500lbgorilla: raises 30 to 60
animal_chin9 said, "no"
Poker_Muzz: folds
wems said, "im opn limping KK utg 99% of the time now"
XxStacks60xX: calls 60
animal_chin9: calls 45
wems: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Tc 4s Qd]
badgers_uk said, "lol r u srs?"
animal_chin9: checks
wems: checks
500lbgorilla said, "he srs bz"
XxStacks60xX said, "I play so bad in tourneys!"
XxStacks60xX said, "lol"
wems said, "did you not just see me own animal"
500lbgorilla: bets 61
XxStacks60xX: calls 61
animal_chin9: folds
500lbgorilla said, "FLAT"
wems: calls 61
*** TURN *** [Tc 4s Qd] [2h]
wems: checks
badgers_uk said, "yeah but do you actually do that in cash games?"
XxStacks60xX said, "the flat call is obv the strongest play"
500lbgorilla: bets 217
XxStacks60xX: raises 247 to 464 and is all-in
wems: folds
500lbgorilla: calls 247
animal_chin9 said, "its not that im not playing good. im just getting **** for cards"
badgers_uk said, "rill has QQ?"
XxStacks60xX said, "was fun guys"
*** RIVER *** [Tc 4s Qd 2h] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
500lbgorilla: shows [Qh 5c] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
XxStacks60xX: shows [Jd Ks] (a pair of Deuces)
500lbgorilla said, ":P"
badgers_uk said, "omg"
500lbgorilla collected 1351 from pot
badgers_uk said, "epic slowroll"
500lbgorilla said, "44 seconds says top pair holds"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1351 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 4s Qd 2h 2d]
Seat 1: 500lbgorilla showed [Qh 5c] and won (1351) with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 2: Poker_Muzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: XxStacks60xX (button) showed [Jd Ks] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 5: animal_chin9 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: wems (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: badgers_uk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ihategnome folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
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I posted those to demonstrate the deep psychological battles that were being waged every hand. There wasn't just a metagame but a metametagame or, the heavy metagame.

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You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
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hands actions are pretty meaningless, it was all about whose sunglasses were darker.

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
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mine are so dark, they come with a seeing-eye dog.

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
 
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, 2
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 Wow guys. The lack of content in this thread is really annoying. This is a strategy forum, not a place to post whore. Please go post your pointless bullshit in rilla's forum.

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