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andmunn
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04-12-2007, 09:58 PM
Post subject: A Decent Rate of Return @ .10 / .25 NL?
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Hi Guys,
I've been playing for about 8 months now - started with SNG's, and noticed i could make money more consistently with Cash Games - so i switched! Been doing cash games for about 3 months now at .10 / .25 NL, and I play for about 3hrs / day - i find that I average (3 months average), about $10/hr - or about $30/day - is that an "adequate" or good return?
I'm just curious how much it should be, and what i should be expecting to be earning.
Andrew.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Full ring or 6max?
How many tables?
Making $25 every 1k hands is a solid return.
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andmunn
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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I play 4 tables at once - full ring - (because of screen resolution). Not sure how many hands... Is 6-max more profitable?
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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6max can be more profitable, it all depends on how good your postflop skills are.
If you play 4 tables of fullring $25nl for 3 hours Im guessing you play about 750 hands a day. So, yes, winning $30 a day on average is a good winrate.
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Miffed22001
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your bankroll size is more important. So long as you make money your bbs/100 rate or $$$ per day is really unimportant at the stakes you play.
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andmunn
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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My bankroll is at $1100 now - which i believe should be enough to move up to the next level - but I am comfortable where i am now....and it's hard for my to analize it any other way b/c i don't have poker tracker.
Andrew.
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bode
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take $50 and buy PT first thing. Then, move up to $0.25/$0.50 tables as long as your Bankroll is over $1k. Dont get comfortable at micro stakes or else you will never make it out. Push yourself to improve and always try to move up when you are bankrolled for it.
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Chopper
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definitely buy PT, if for nothing else, the win rate tracking at different levels/sites. just easier that way.
and, btw, you can read everything you want about 6max, and its prolly all true (who am i to tell the experts they are wrong), but if you want a more profitable game...
switch to 6 max and take your FR game. dont change much, other that steal the blinds more often, and with a wider range. other than that, keep your game virtually the same. all the fish at 6max are overplaying their hands...thats why they are fish whether it be 6max or fr. there are plenty more fishies playing SH because the suckouts are more frequent (result of everybody "opening up their game"), so the variance is MUCH higher. but, you should beat the low levels if you beat the lower FR games. just...
watch out for regulars.
punish passives
play abc
abuse position
blind steal more often than at fr.
if you feel you are not comfortable, go back to FR for awhile and sort out the bad habits you will inevitably pick up at the 6max tables in the beginning.
i still switch back and forth using fish-finders, but FINALLY am beating both. 6max gave me fits because i thought i had to "open up my game." I WAS THE FISH FOR AWHILE.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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Miffed22001
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your bankroll should dictate which games you play in when your bankroll is <2500.
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The_Bankroll
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sounds like you are doing pretty well. get pokertracker though. it's a lot easier to see how you are doing based on BB/100. a good player should be able to get 6BB/100, but 10BB/100 is defiently obtainable.
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bigspenda73
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10bb/100 is tough to achieve. Even at $25nl. Over a large sample size (20k+ hands) I would gladly run 4-5ptbb/100 at any level.
That being said, there is no problem shooting for 10ptbb/100 just don't try to play a higher variance game because of it. Your goals at $25nl are this:
Get your PF game totally solid
Improve postflop game through better hand-reading and semi-bluffing
Grind out bonus
Move up quickly
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