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MetsFan259
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09-06-2006, 10:31 PM
Post subject: Dealing with Tilt
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Hey everyone - This is my 1st post, but I've been reading through them for a little. I have been playing poker for about 1 full month, and I made a profit of about 600-700 that is until yesterday..... I have this major problem with dealing with any type of bad beat or unlucky streak, and as a result, I tilted myself down to +75. Is there anything you guys can recommend to help dealing with this big problem? What kind of things do you experienced players do to control yoursleves?
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martindcx1e
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sounds like you're playing too high of a stake for just starting out. play at stakes/with bankroll that makes the chips not seem like money.
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LeFou
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Welcome. Control tilt by playing more. You will see it all, and nothing will phase you any more. If you know bad beats screw up your play this much, just *stop playing after dropping, say, 40BB in a single hand.
Your numbers indicate that you're what we call "results-oriented". Look again at your numbers for these figure:
Total hands played; total profit; profit as BB/100.
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MetsFan259
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Well...when I had 700 at one point, I went into the 1/2 NL tables - that was probably a mistake. After, I got down to 500 after losing with a flush to a flopped full house. Then, my tilt proceeded to rob me of my profits as I stupidly went into 2/4 NL tables to try to regain my losings quickly.
As far as bankroll is concerned, do you think playing in $15 turbo SNG is about the right amount for a bankroll of 700?
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LeFou
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with 600 you're properly rolled for $30 and below. Turbos you need some extra, to account for variance, so I wouldn't do >$20 turbos.
playing 1/2 NL with 700 bankroll is insane and you got what you deserved for that.
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martindcx1e
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read about bankroll management on here. play with like 25 buy-ins at least for your level.
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MetsFan259
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hmmm - how many buyins for a tournament do i need in order to play at that level? 100 buyins of $16 turbo SNG in order to play at that level?
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martindcx1e
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100 buy-ins for mtt's. for turbo sng's like 30 i think. someone please correct me if i'm wrong.
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MetsFan259
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hmmm - sounds ok - then why would LeFou telling me playing in $16 Turbo SNG is too much for my what was $700 bankroll. Once I get back up to that, I'm gonna go straight back to that. Do you think there are just some players not cut out for cash?
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martindcx1e
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he didn't say $16 turbos are too much
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LeFou
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Playing turbos with a buyin > $20 would risk busting if you ran bad. $16 looks fine.
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What has happened to you is something that most players go through, and although it sucks bigtime you will NEVER make the same mistake again, and this is a lesson of huge value. So don't be disheartened - find yourself a limit within your bankroll (which is what, btw, now that you've lost most of yr profit?) and play form there - if you're a good player your roll will grow and you'll be able to move up in stakes when it does.
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MetsFan259
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LeFou I think you mean <$20 - the way the arrow is pointing in ur posts means less than $20....you give me adivce on poker, and I can help you with the other stuff...lol
on a more serious note, my bankroll now sucks. It's under 50 which means I have to start playing with my real money again...also extremely frustrating, but whatever - I guess it's part of the game. I could probably put an extra $300 into the account and have nothing to worry about.
Thanks for the encourangement biondino.
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zook
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by MetsFan259
LeFou I think you mean <$20 - the way the arrow is pointing in ur posts means less than $20....you give me adivce on poker, and I can help you with the other stuff...lol
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 Maybe you were kidding, but the alligator eats the bigger number, so LeFou was right.
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MetsFan259
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Lefou wrote, "Playing turbos with a buyin > $20 would risk busting if you ran bad. $16 looks fine."
He was wrong. He should have wrote <$20. Why would turbos >$20(less than 20) be dangerous? See my point?
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zook
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">$20" means greater than $20.
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FlopTurnThenRivered
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Lol.
Zook is correct, <$20 would read "less than $20".
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pgil
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on a side note, its good to see that others still use the "alligator" when dealing with the greater than/less than arrows.
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"If you can't say f*ck, you can't say f*ck the government" - Lenny Bruce
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I was always partial to Pacman. Pacman is always hungry so he eats the larger number.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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MetsFan259
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alright alright i admit - i made a really big mistake. lol. I'm an idiot. I WAS JOKING EVERYONE!!!. lol jk... i really wasn't that's sad. anyway...to say pacman is better than alligator tho.
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flyingPenguin
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Crocodiles are way better than aligators and pacman. Steve Irwin would never have done a show called Aligator Hunter.
I deal with a bad day by getting drunk. That's also what I do after a day of big winnings.
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LeFou
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This is a classic thread.
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biondino
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Okay, so you have a roll of $350. You can play $16s, just about, and $11s if you play SNGs, or $10NL if you play ring (you could move up to $25NL when your roll reaches $500). If you play MTTs you can probably get away with $5.50s. Hope this helps!
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by flyingPenguin
Crocodiles are way better than aligators and pacman. Steve Irwin would never have done a show called Aligator Hunter.
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Obviously. Steve Irwin was Australian. There is only one relatively small species of alligator in Australia.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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WhooFleuryScores
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I think you'll be ok just stick with us....
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Apparently he's the crocodile hunter, but the stingray hunted.
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