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housefish17
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11-06-2007, 04:26 AM
Post subject: Crossing over from TAgg/Agg to LAgg/Agg help
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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I've said it a hundred times now, even in 48 or so posts but I'm a really new poker player, started back in February. Lost an initial $1500 or so (yeah I'm a slow learner and refused to learn BR management) cause I didn't know the game of poker and started play 50NL right away. Anywho, deposited in UB a while back, attempting to clear a bonus, but I didn't like the site at all (no resizeable tables killed me) so I transfered my money out. 2 months later or so they put $10 in my account (I still had like 2$ left over) and decided to play a $10+1 tourney essentially for free. Well, cashed in that tourney at 6th place toke $68. Next day, same tourney, won it for $459. So now I have $500 plus bucks
Transfered that to FTP and started grinding $25NL this week.
Here's my stats...
20.27/11.56/3.54
WtSD 22.33%
W$SD 50%
Is this playing too nitty at these levels? My BB/100 is 10.11 through 5500+ hands (small sample I know). It seems like I can increase than by playing a little bit looser. I've noticed that FT players are a lot tighter than most other sites I've played at. Does that mean I keep playing tight? Or do I actually Loosen up my preflop range? Or, is there any point to changing my strategy as this one seems to be working at the moment?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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housefish17
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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btw i play strictly 6 max
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martindcx1e
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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You generally want to be playing the opposite from your opponents without being weak and without being spewy. So if all the players are weak-tight rocks then steal from them until they adjust. Just don't get spewy! Also, sorry to break it to you but there is a 99.999% chance that your winrate will not continue that high over a real sample size.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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thizzSantaCruz
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz
Posts: 894
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If a table is playing real tight, play a little looser. You should adapt to the table conditions and play oposite of it. The reason is if everyone real tight you can pick up a lot of little pots playing a little looser. If the tables real loose you can tighten up and win the big pots.
Full Tilt is a lot tougher than UB. UB you see a lot of 47/7/2 types. Just because people at FT are not limping as much does not mean they are very tight. A lot are just not limping ever but raising about 20% of their hands. They are also a lot more aggressive post flop.
UB has resizeable tables now by the way. I would suggest keeing part of your BR on each site and that way you have more tables to choose from.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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grnydrowave2
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Showin' mah Pokemans
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My stats are very similar. Take your bankroll elsewhere, find some loose fishy tables, and crush them. There's nothing wrong with playing nitty at microstakes 6-max as long as the conditions are right.
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<SrslySirius> Hal Lubarsky, my nemesis.
<SaltLick> are you seriously losing to a blind guy
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daven
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11-06-2007, 07:21 AM
Post subject: Re: Crossing over from TAgg/Agg to LAgg/Agg help
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: soaking up ethanol, moving on up
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Originally Posted by housefish17
is there any point to changing my strategy as this one seems to be working at the moment?
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if it ain't break, don't fix it.
6-max I'm more like 20-16-4, but your game is winning too (and at a higher rate than mine!). don't stress it.
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bode
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
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if it isnt broke, dont fix it isnt the best advice here, but its not bad either. These are very similar stats to what Cocco_Bill runs and he kills every game everywhere, so it works. That being said, most people advocate a style where your PFR% is roughly 3/4 or more of your VP$IP%.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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housefish17
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Yeah, I don't know how you guys find the hands to enter pots with. I'm struggling to maintain 20%, played another 800 hands or so last night and my VPIP didn't change, but my PFR% went up a little. I'm very into position. You'll be hard pressed to find me play KJo or ATs utg. But, if the tables are really weak tight, i do open up my range.
The problem for me when I try to steal or in generally play a little more aggressive preflop, is that I get married to my hand and try to push people off their hands. This most definitely is costing me BB/100
And yes my BB/100 is high right now (actually moved to to 9.58), but there have been many opputunities had I just been a little more aggressive, I could have gotten that extra call or made a big call with middle pair.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
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switching from TAG to LAG is something i have not been able to do with any success. it goes against my very nature, and i just dont think properly when i am trying to play LAG.
that said, to me, your "stats" are what i would like to ideally run, but i am tighter right now. i think 20/10/3 is a lot of fun to run. but, it requires GREAT post flop decisions. if you arent very experienced, i would tighten up and play more aggressively when i have a hand. and start to open up from there...using position. when i play 20/10, i tend to play KQ from UTG with a raise. and, that gets me in trouble. and the reason...
i dont BALANCE my range out with trash. i dont play 57s from UTG, i dont play J8s. you need to, on occasion, limp AK UTG and 57s. and RR with KK late, and 35s. if you want your KQ to be powerful in ep, you need to be really, really wide in late position...and still keep your aggression up there without overplaying your speculative hands. you need to balance raising and limping with strong and weak holdings. although, thats where i have no clue.
i would experiment with 3betting before switching to LAG. 3betting is a critical step in becoming a LAG, and i would master that first.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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housefish17
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 67
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can you expound upon your 3-betting statement?
What kinda range and situation do you look for?
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
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i guess you need to search for "sauce123" and look for his 3betting thread. i would post the link, but i looked and i think i deleted it...oops.
essentially, you need to start "3betting light." meaning open up your 3betting range a bit. when in position, or in the blinds, and someone raises, you RR. with hands like sc's, baby pairs, AXs. the reasoning, it balances out your normal range. your villain will think, until proven wrong, that you are doing this with AQ+/JJ+. and by doing this with an sc, you are making it easier to SLAM your combo draw against his big hand. you get underneath his range, and therefore, avoid domination with troublesome hands that TAGs love...like AJs.
but, you need to read the thread, and some others, before implementing this stuff. i dont have a firm grasp on it myself and tend to pick the wrong spots to do this. so, now would be a good time to remind you to read my disclaimer below. lol.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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housefish17
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 67
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Thanks, I'ma go take a look
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biondino
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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I have found a PFR 2/3 of my VP works pretty well - I am about 21/14 these days.
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snugglez88
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Your style doesn't matter.... adapt to your opponents and play good hands.
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