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Couple tough spots (25NL FR)

  
 
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killerkebab
Old 09-24-2008, 02:20 AM     Post subject: Couple tough spots (25NL FR) #1 (permalink)  
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saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($85.40)
SB ($44.65)
BB ($33.80)
Hero (UTG) ($66.15)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($23.90)
MP3 ($13.75)
CO ($26.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero raises to $1.25, 5 folds, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, BB calls $1

Flop: ($5.25) 9, 8, J (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $5, 1 fold, SB raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($35.25) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($35.25) K (2 players)
SB bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

Total pot: $56.25 | Rake: $2.80

Villain runs 36/20/2.8 over 60 hands.
Now obviously the hand was pretty badly played but where am I going wrong?

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MP1 ($50.40)
MP2 ($38.70)
MP3 ($25.90)
CO ($26.05)
Button ($51.70)
SB ($46.10)
BB ($25.70)
Hero (UTG) ($60.85)
UTG+1 ($24.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 5, 3, 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.75, 1 fold, Button calls $2.75

Turn: ($8.85) J (2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, Button calls $6.50

River: ($21.85) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button raises to $26.50, Hero calls $16.50

Total pot: $74.85 | Rake: $3

Here villain is 26/10/4.8
Both of those hands have me stumped tonight :/
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JinxT4
Old 09-24-2008, 04:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 - I might fold to the flop raise. If not, I'd probably play the rest the same.
Hand 2 - I think that river raise tells you that you're beat. Fwiw, I think I'd rather check/call the river to try to get him to bluff a busted flush draw.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:09 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 : I don't know if shoving over this ultra drawy board would be an option if stacks were smaller. Here I would play as you did, i find it weak to fold to the flop raise unless villain is ultra tight. His turn check on the flush card and the small river bet looks like a DP or a set but you have good odds and you beat miss straight draws and things like JT, QJ, AJ.

Hand 2 : I think flop and turn bets are ok, but the river bet seems useless to me : unless villain is very loose passive and called you all the way with TT, QQ, AJ or A9, you won't get any value nor bluff any hand with your half size bet and you will face a hard decision if raised . As Jinx said, let him bet with busted draws and try to get a cheap showdown.

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Old 09-24-2008, 06:55 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I am definitely not folding to his flop raise. Flop raise is flush draw/straight draw/top pair, you name it.

That's also why you should bet the turn after he checks. Flush draw got there, but straight draws didn't. Top pair also pays you off. If you bet the turn and he donks the river... now you have a different decision.

Hand 2: fold as played.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:02 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: what were your stats like? If he had you Cbetting >80% do you think he would raise this board to steal? What was his Callout%? 36/20 means hes limping alot of shit and your deep stacked so hes probly calling you with any PP and most SC's.
his line seems weak to me, id bet the turn and fold to a raise.


Hand2: I like the flop and turn but the river i think should be checked, like everyone above me has already said.
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