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Kbryce23
Old 04-04-2009, 05:06 PM     Post subject: Couple QQ hands #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1. I have no clue what to do in this hand. I have no reads on either player since I just posted BB last hand. Folding preflop seems crappy, but maybe I should have since UTG raise got 3bet. Flop fold and raise both seem crappy.

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MP2 ($30.70)
MP3 ($30)
CO ($23)
Button ($9.15)
Hero (SB) ($25)
BB ($27.65)
UTG ($9.90)
UTG+1 ($5.65)
MP1 ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
UTG bets $0.75, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $2, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.25

Flop: ($6.25) 10, 7, 10 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $3, Hero calls $3, UTG calls $3

Turn: ($15.25) K (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $4, Hero folds, UTG raises to $4.90 (All-In), MP1 calls $0.90

River: ($25.05) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $25.05 | Rake: $1.20

Hand 2. Villian is quite aggro over a pretty small sample 22/19/4.0/over 80 hands I have seen him 3bet a couple times this session. 3bet is 10%. I was thinking a 4bet would make him fold any worse hands. Flop play is probably horrible.

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MP2 ($44.65)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($24.50)
Button ($32.60)
SB ($21.35)
BB ($5)
Hero (UTG) ($25.50)
UTG+1 ($30.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero bets $1, 6 folds, SB raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.75) 2, 10, 3 (2 players)
SB bets $4.50, Hero raises to $23.25 (All-In), SB calls $14.60 (All-In)

Turn: ($42.95) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($42.95) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $42.95 | Rake: $2.10
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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H1. SPR is like 4. I think I would be comfortable getting it all in on the flop there since you obviously don't think the other stack has AA or KK. Flop action probably should have involved a raise.

H2 Ugh, he binked you with a flush draw didn't he?\
Your SPR is like 5ish, which is ok for the most part. The problem is, you're kinda turning a hand with value into a bluff. What do you beat here that calls? I mean, his donk bet is so big, he wants to play for stacks, The flush donk makes sense, and sets make sense.. that's about it. Maybe AA or KK JJ...... AK, AQ if he's bluffy.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:50 PM #3 (permalink)  
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You obviously don't put him on AA or KK given your play on the flop, so re-raise PF.

H1
I 4bet here too, but depends how tight you want to play. Multi-way pots suck with over pairs. As played, I think the check on the flop was alright, but you need to raise the bet. Calling sucks, just fold if you don't want to play this pot.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:11 PM #4 (permalink)  
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You obviously don't put him on AA or KK given your play on the flop, so re-raise PF.

H1
I 4bet here too, but depends how tight you want to play. Multi-way pots suck with over pairs. As played, I think the check on the flop was alright, but you need to raise the bet. Calling sucks, just fold if you don't want to play this pot.
nooooo

ignore his 3-bet stat it's irrelevant over this sample.

Edit: What a retarded 3-bet size :/. FWIW action is on us and we're last to act preflop, we don't have to worry about 4-betting to isolate, because we're already heads up.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:24 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I think the c/r would have been a brilliant play here and if reraised a shove would be in order. When the K comes up you're beat. Fold here if you think you're beat on the raise.

Hand 2: That looks like a scared reraise coming from you. I think just outpricing his draw is the best action. Over cards are making this call as well I think.
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Old 04-05-2009, 03:08 PM #6 (permalink)  
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H1-Calling here is basically playing your hands face up.Would you do this with 66-JJ?Flop c/c is questionable here.Allocate some ranges here for villain even though you have nothing on them.

What does 3bettor cbet with here?

H2-When you are calling the 3bet,you shouldnt fold on this flop.Its so badddd unless you have soul reads.As played
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H1-Calling here is basically playing your hands face up.Would you do this with 66-JJ?Flop c/c is questionable here.Allocate some ranges here for villain even though you have nothing on them.

What does 3bettor cbet with here?

H2-When you are calling the 3bet,you shouldnt fold on this flop.Its so badddd unless you have soul reads.As played
OK, but 4b does the same, no? I mean who the fuck would cold 4b bluff here
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:03 AM #8 (permalink)  
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How badly played is this hand? Villian's stats are 16/13 over 250 hands. I figure he is decent since I have seen him around here. Should I 3bet pre? Should I raise on any street? should I call river?

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MP1 ($41.85)
MP2 ($25.35)
CO ($27)
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SB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
2 folds, MP2 bets $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 9, J, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.60) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30

River: ($8.20) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $5.10, Hero folds

Total pot: $8.20 | Rake: $0.40
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:49 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 soo..what river card were you looking for to call?
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:07 AM #10 (permalink)  
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soo..what river card were you looking for to call?
a queen wouldve been nice. I dont know. Now that I look it it seems kind of stupid to fold river. I was thinking at the time that he would just check back the river with a hand like JK, or AJ. I figured the only hands that bet the river were hands that beat mine like flushes, overpairs, sets, straight.
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