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Old 04-17-2006, 12:43 AM     Post subject: A couple of hands, what do you think? #1 (permalink)  
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I think my river play in both is a bit suspect... what do you think?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 ($2.31)
CO ($7.58)
Button ($5.02)
SB ($4.74)
BB ($4.50)
UTG ($5.23)
UTG+1 ($7.06)
UTG+2 ($4.92)
MP1 ($4.58)
Hero ($6.21)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, UTG+2 raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $0.06, BB calls $0.04, UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04.

Flop: ($0.56) 7, T, J (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.04, UTG+2 raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08, SB calls $0.08, BB folds, UTG calls $0.08, UTG+1 calls $0.04.

Turn: ($1.04) 5 (6 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.16, UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.5, MP3 folds, SB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.84, Hero raises to $1.18, UTG+1 calls $0.34.

River: ($3.40) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.04, Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $2.96.

Final Pot: $11.40



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UTG ($6.68)
Hero ($10.46)
MP1 ($5.14)
MP2 ($12.36)
CO ($4.94)
Button ($8.70)
SB ($4.84)
BB ($4.88)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4, 4. SB posts a blind of $0.02.
1 fold, Hero calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04, MP2 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Button calls $0.04, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.24) K, Q, 4 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.2, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20, BB folds.

Turn: ($0.84) A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.7, Button raises to $2.07, SB folds, Hero calls $1.37.

River: ($4.98) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.01, Hero calls $2.01.

Final Pot: $9
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Old 04-17-2006, 12:53 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 - raise on that flop... a lot (like anywhere up to the pot). Raise the turn a lot more - and stop the minraising. Once someone bites, just push, stop dicking around. River - now u should just call, the :As: beats you and it is likely that is what you are up against.

Hand 2 - looks fine to me without a read.
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Old 04-17-2006, 01:10 AM     Post subject: Re: A couple of hands, what do you think? #3 (permalink)  
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I think my river play in both is a bit suspect... what do you think?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 ($2.31)
CO ($7.58)
Button ($5.02)
SB ($4.74)
BB ($4.50)
UTG ($5.23)
UTG+1 ($7.06)
UTG+2 ($4.92)
MP1 ($4.58)
Hero ($6.21)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, UTG+2 raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $0.06, BB calls $0.04, UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04.
Its hard to say at these levels, but I would ditch KQs to a raise, especially with two EP limpers ahead of the raiser. This is a hand that I typically limp one if Im playing it for a raise I want to be the one raising, I dont want to be calling a raise.

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Flop: ($0.56) 7, T, J (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.04, UTG+2 raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08, SB calls $0.08, BB folds, UTG calls $0.08, UTG+1 calls $0.04.
The pot is $0.56 before any bets, we have a very very good hand here, OESD+Flush Draw and two overcards, I am raising this for value, especially when these bets ahead are so weak.

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Turn: ($1.04) 5 (6 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $0.16, UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.5, MP3 folds, SB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.84, Hero raises to $1.18, UTG+1 calls $0.34.
The pot is $1 here, villain bets like 1/5 the pot, and you rightfully raise, I would have made the raise bigger. You then get reraised [very weakly] and then as though to return the favor you weakly raise him back. Your raises have to be much stronger. Had you raised the flop, made a good sized raise on the turn, youd probably be getting your whole stack in the middle here which is what you want.

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River: ($3.40) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.04, Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $2.96.

Final Pot: $11.40
This is not a good river for you, as it allows the As to get a higher flush. You arent folding here, but raising should be out of the question, simply call this bet and hope he doesnt have that ace.

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UTG ($6.68)
Hero ($10.46)
MP1 ($5.14)
MP2 ($12.36)
CO ($4.94)
Button ($8.70)
SB ($4.84)
BB ($4.88)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4, 4. SB posts a blind of $0.02.
1 fold, Hero calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04, MP2 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Button calls $0.04, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.24) K, Q, 4 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.2, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20, BB folds.
This seems fine.

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Turn: ($0.84) A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.7, Button raises to $2.07, SB folds, Hero calls $1.37.
I think Id toss in a good sized 3-bet here

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River: ($4.98) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.01, Hero calls $2.01.

Final Pot: $9
I would have lead here for $3, you lead every other street, why not here? The 7c didnt help him, as played I think Id push that river.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:03 AM     Post subject: Re: A couple of hands, what do you think? #4 (permalink)  
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Its hard to say at these levels, but I would ditch KQs to a raise, especially with two EP limpers ahead of the raiser. This is a hand that I typically limp one if Im playing it for a raise I want to be the one raising, I dont want to be calling a raise.
Me neither... but then at this level I'm taking min-raises to be pretty much nothing. (Min-raise can be 77 or something or even Kxs).

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The pot is $0.56 before any bets, we have a very very good hand here, OESD+Flush Draw and two overcards, I am raising this for value, especially when these bets ahead are so weak.
Raising/Betting for value is something I have trouble with. I'm not 100% on when it's good.

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The pot is $1 here, villain bets like 1/5 the pot, and you rightfully raise, I would have made the raise bigger. You then get reraised [very weakly] and then as though to return the favor you weakly raise him back. Your raises have to be much stronger. Had you raised the flop, made a good sized raise on the turn, youd probably be getting your whole stack in the middle here which is what you want.
I don't normally use the automatic raise button... ever.
Unfortunately I had a pp on another table and was short on time and got desperate.

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This is not a good river for you, as it allows the As to get a higher flush. You arent folding here, but raising should be out of the question, simply call this bet and hope he doesnt have that ace.
Yeah. Sound right. I think you and chard hit it on the head. I just took the weak bet as a sign of weakness (not trappiness) and decided that this might be my chance to get a big pot off a lower flush.

Actually he had A3s, so he made the flush with me on the turn. Oh, how I wish it had been the 9 on the river

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Turn: ($0.84) A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.7, Button raises to $2.07, SB folds, Hero calls $1.37.
I think Id toss in a good sized 3-bet here
Probably the smart move. I just thought I had him and thought this would set up a nice river.

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I would have lead here for $3, you lead every other street, why not here? The 7c didnt help him, as played I think Id push that river.
The check, I think, was the smart play. I knew he'd bet, I just knew it. The idea was to check-raise. The trouble is he put in such a good bet that the dollar signs flashed in my eyes and I hit the "call" so quickly that you'd think I expected him to hit "undo" or something.

It's a weakness I'm working on, I get excited when things go my way and sometimes I do something stupid. I wanted to raise here and in my excitement I didn't.

He had AK, so I bet he'd have called too.
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