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Old 04-07-2009, 08:37 PM     Post subject: A couple 10nl FR hands. #1 (permalink)  
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First hand at the table, so obviously no reads. I led the flop for obvious reasons. The turn I check behind just in case he was drawing for a bigger flush on the flop. Now on the river do I check to let him bluff at it? Bet out small to extract value? V-bet around 1/2-2/3 pot?


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Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($17.60)
UTG+1 ($6)
MP1 ($15.30)
MP2 ($9.25)
CO ($7.20)
Button ($9.15)
SB ($9.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 5 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.35) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.30

Turn: ($0.95) (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

River: ($0.95) (2 players)

Total pot: $0.95


Hand 2:

Villain is 37/7/1.8 with an aggression frequency of 64%. My question is, do I try to get it AI on the flop? Or should I did I play it right there? On the turn (as played on the flop) was shipping it in right? Should I have just flatted and shoved river? I figured with him betting/committing so much of his stack that he would have to call a shove.


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CO ($3.35)
Button ($15.55)
SB ($9.20)
BB ($13.80)
UTG ($1.55)
UTG+1 ($10)
Hero (MP1) ($14.60)
MP2 ($9.95)
MP3 ($10.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with ,
2 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 4 folds, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) , , (2 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, SB raises to $2.10, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($5.10) (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $12.10 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $9.10 | Rake: $0.40


Hand 3:

I'm just putting this hand in to remind myself that NITS DON'T BLUFF!!! And to keep myself from spewing. The button is 9/3 over ~120 hands. Pretty much in my head I thought to myself, "yep fuck you nit" SHOVE. Obviously, bad idea. I haven't done something this stupid in a while, and it kind of makes me sad to see that I am still capable of doing it. Hopefully by getting posting this I will be embarrassed into not doing it again anytime soon.


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Hero (BB) ($13.50)
UTG ($10.75)
UTG+1 ($2)
MP1 ($10.25)
MP2 ($10.75)
MP3 ($1.95)
CO ($4.60)
Button ($10)
SB ($17.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
UTG calls $0.10, 4 folds, CO bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.25) , , (4 players)
Hero bets $0.80, 1 fold, CO calls $0.80, Button raises to $3, Hero raises to $13.20 (All-In), CO calls $3.50 (All-In), Button calls $6.70 (All-In)

Turn: ($24.95) (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($24.95) (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $24.95 | Rake: $1.20

Like wtf was I thinking? lol
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Betting on the turn is a terrible idea for Hand 1. I mean, what worse flushes that just got there are going to pay off 3 streets of value? It's much more likely that if he called turn and river that I would just be value towning myself. Checking behind turn here is standard I believe.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:47 PM #3 (permalink)  
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fwiw (just my take from my 10NL perspective):

Hand1: is a nasty pain in butt lol. idk tho, i might be tempted to throw out a small bet on the turn. Is unclear what he has and is easy enough for him to have a hand without a heart. tbh if i was dealt this i prolly would've just checked it down if i could and gone in a mong for a few seconds!

Hand2: i like the way you played this. If villain has set you're almost certain to be shoved on rather than the smallish 3-bet. idk what hes doing really lol.

Hand3: i'd check/call or check/raise flop. probably the latter and go from there. obv this is depending on the action. if CO c-bets and B reraises im prolly gonna just fold.

nice interesting hands tho!
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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H1 sucks. I don't really know what to do here. What about 1/2 pot blocking bet?

H2 played fine imo. Villain's stats indicate he's bad, but I don't think shoving a 3-bet on flop with TPTK is the best idea unless you know for sure he can't fold TPWK or flush draws. Your raise here is good since his bet is so small and you want to protect your hand a bit on this board. His min 3-bet is pretty easy to call. No point of just calling turn when he only has 4.50 left behind. nh

H3 I think you hit the nail on the head. Because button only called the 3bb PFR I don't think he has overpairs. If you're not going to believe rasies by nits, who's raises are you going to believe :P
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:29 PM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 2. Flush on river for villian? Maybe but I'd take slowplay on turn.
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 H1 Just check.

H2 Your questions kinda requires us to know if he'll stack off lightly. Qx and FDs I mean. I don't mind how you played the flop. We're clearly raising for value and his min3bet is just extremely weird.

H3- Yea shoving over the nit PFR who obv. likes his hand w/TPTK is probably not that great of an idea.
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hand 1 is a check on the river for the same reason that it was a check on the turn because no flush won't call you, he's just going to assume you have a small flush card
but if he WOULD call a small bet with no flush then go for 1/5 pot bet lol

needs reads, but the default play is c/c

hand 2 don't get it all in on the flop
hand 3 don't get it all in on the flop
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hand 2. Flush on river for villian? Maybe but I'd take slowplay on turn.
What is the result of hand3?
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Why not? Is that considered taboo?
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hand 2. Flush on river for villian? Maybe but I'd take slowplay on turn.
What is the result of hand3?
Do not ask for results.
Why not? Is that considered taboo?
Asking for results, especially before anyone else has answered the thread, will skew the analysis and the best advice may not be given if it's just based on results. The problem isn't winning or losing pots, it's making the correct plays. Because we only worry about making correct plays, results aren't of any importance when trying to decide what play Hero should have made.
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