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Marbleboy
Old 11-23-2009, 01:46 PM     Post subject: Could i have done anything different here? #1 (permalink)  

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Villian was like 54/20 over maybe 70 hands. He had been stacking other players by hitting his turn and river cards really hard, running super hot...

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SB ($24.82)
BB ($6.38)
UTG ($15.21)
MP ($7.88)
Hero (Button) ($5.23)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
2 folds, Hero bets $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) 7, 10, 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.65) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.60, SB raises to $3.70, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.68 (All-In), SB calls $0.98

River: ($11.01) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $11.01
I put him on maybe a 10 with a picture or even a missed flush draw
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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all looks pretty standard stuff at NL5. id get it all in on the turn aswell he normally donking off with loads of 10's here
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:35 PM #3 (permalink)  
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It's typically a good idea to not play an overpair for stacks without good reads if you can't get a ton more money in preflop. C/C the flop, C/R the turn is almost always a set at these stakes where guys like to slow play flops with draws. Yea AT is in his range, but do we really want to play for stacks after letting him see the flop for cheap. If he is raising TP on the turn and not the flop I would be surprised.
 
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:46 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I probably would have opened for .20 or .25 here depending on table reads. We're IP with a juicy hand. Then on the flop (assuming both callers still come along) I'd open for .50 - .65 depending on what you opened for pre-flop. Other then that it seems pretty standard.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:41 PM #5 (permalink)  
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It sounds like you had the misfortune to be playing against Darvin Moon.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:09 PM #6 (permalink)  

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Argash, Ive been watching Grinderschools "Master 6max" series by Spenda. At one point he suggests raising 3x OTB to get worse hands to come along, which did happen but then ahain he did hit his set. However he wascalling very very light and I blieve thathe would have called any raise as he was so loose. What do people think of this strategy OTB?
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:48 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Argash, Ive been watching Grinderschools "Master 6max" series by Spenda. At one point he suggests raising 3x OTB to get worse hands to come along, which did happen but then ahain he did hit his set. However he wascalling very very light and I blieve thathe would have called any raise as he was so loose. What do people think of this strategy OTB?
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:54 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Argash, Ive been watching Grinderschools "Master 6max" series by Spenda. At one point he suggests raising 3x OTB to get worse hands to come along, which did happen but then ahain he did hit his set. However he wascalling very very light and I blieve thathe would have called any raise as he was so loose. What do people think of this strategy OTB?
most of what im about to say comes from Professional No-Limit hold'em, if you haven't read it yet please do so. Basically when you have a big pocket pair like this you want a very low stack to pot ratio that essentially commits you to the pot and earns you the most money in the long run.

The side benefit of this is by raising more pre-flop, good players with lower pairs will tend to fold rather than set mine because you've priced them out. And don't worry donks will still play with you and pay you off.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:46 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Argash, Ive been watching Grinderschools "Master 6max" series by Spenda. At one point he suggests raising 3x OTB to get worse hands to come along, which did happen but then ahain he did hit his set. However he wascalling very very light and I blieve thathe would have called any raise as he was so loose. What do people think of this strategy OTB?
most of what im about to say comes from Professional No-Limit hold'em, if you haven't read it yet please do so. Basically when you have a big pocket pair like this you want a very low stack to pot ratio that essentially commits you to the pot and earns you the most money in the long run.

The side benefit of this is by raising more pre-flop, good players with lower pairs will tend to fold rather than set mine because you've priced them out. And don't worry donks will still play with you and pay you off.
this is pretty bad advice. raising 3x in late position, or even all positions is fine. while raising 5-6x OTB w/ JJ+ may work at 2nl/5nl, even the biggest droolers can figure out that you are only raising that much with big PP's.
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