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denouement
Old 02-26-2005, 01:43 AM     Post subject: correct decision??? #1 (permalink)  

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I played this hand in a tournament on absolute poker. I'm "DENOUEMENT." I'm not sure if i made the correct decision in calling "HITTHATFLUSH"'s all-in raise after the turn card came up. He had been stealing a lot of pots with wild bluffs, occasionally going all-in with crap hands and getting extremely lucky draws to straights and flush. After the flop came down on this particular hand everyone checked to me and I bet with my pair of kings (normally I wouldn't but the players at the table didn't seem to fond of check raising). Then the turn came and HITTHATFLUSH goes all in. I knew he wasn't slowplaying three queens because, well frankly, slowplaying his good hands wasn't his style and he had been pushing all in quite frequently with nothing. I knew he might've been on a flush draw, so I called. Everyone else folds and on the river another heart comes up and he makes his flush. I can't see how I misplayed this hand except for one reason--knowing that he was on a flush draw, and knowing that he had 4X the amount of chips I did and that I'd be knocked out if he hit his flush but he wouldn't be knocked out if he didn't, was I wrong in taking the risk? Was he right to push all-in because of this, and was I wrong to call? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Here it is:

Seat 1 - HITTHATFLUSH $7190 in chips
Seat 2 - FURKNEE $1885 in chips
Seat 3 - STYROFOAM $3490 in chips
Seat 4 - CRAZYCHEESE $3450 in chips
Seat 5 - MUFFLERMAN $2910 in chips
Seat 6 - DENOUEMENT $2470 in chips
Seat 7 - ZOEYANNE $1440 in chips
Seat 8 - RAYHAY $2600 in chips
Seat 9 - YADDY $4135 in chips
HITTHATFLUSH - Post small blind $40
FURKNEE - Post big blind $80
DENOUEMENT - Pocket [Ks,Jd]
STYROFOAM - Calls $80
CRAZYCHEESE - Folds
MUFFLERMAN - Folds
DENOUEMENT - Calls $80
ZOEYANNE - Folds (Timeout)
RAYHAY - Folds
YADDY - Folds
HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $40
FURKNEE - Checks
*** FLOP [Qh,Kh,Qs] ***
HITTHATFLUSH - Checks (Timeout)
FURKNEE - Checks
STYROFOAM - Checks
DENOUEMENT - Bets $400
HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $400 (Timeout)
FURKNEE - Folds
STYROFOAM - Calls $400
*** TURN [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s] ***
HITTHATFLUSH - All-In $6710 (Timeout)
STYROFOAM - Folds
DENOUEMENT - All-In $1990
HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($4720) : not called
HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($0) : not called
*** RIVER [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h] ***
HITTHATFLUSH - Calls (Timeout)
DENOUEMENT - Calls
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($5500)
Board [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h]
HITTHATFLUSH - Total ($5500) All-In HI$5500)Flush, king high [3h,5h - B:Kh,B:Qh,B:8h,P:5h,P:3h]
FURKNEE - Folded on the FLOP
STYROFOAM - Folded on the TURN
CRAZYCHEESE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MUFFLERMAN - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
DENOUEMENT - HI:Two pair, kings and queens [Ks,Jd - P:Ks,B:Kh,B:Qs,B:Qh,P:Jd]
ZOEYANNE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
RAYHAY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
YADDY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:00 AM     Post subject: Re: correct decision??? #2 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by denouement
I played this hand in a tournament on Absolute. I'm "DENOUEMENT." I'm not sure if i made the correct decision in calling "HITTHATFLUSH"'s all-in raise after the turn card came up. He had been stealing a lot of pots with wild bluffs, occasionally going all-in with crap hands and getting extremely lucky draws to straights and flush. After the flop came down on this particular hand everyone checked to me and I bet with my pair of kings (normally I wouldn't but the players at the table didn't seem to fond of check raising). Then the turn came and HITTHATFLUSH goes all in. I knew he wasn't slowplaying three queens because, well frankly, slowplaying his good hands wasn't his style and he had been pushing all in quite frequently with nothing. I knew he might've been on a flush draw, so I called. Everyone else folds and on the river another heart comes up and he makes his flush. I can't see how I misplayed this hand except for one reason--knowing that he was on a flush draw, and knowing that he had 4X the amount of chips I did and that I'd be knocked out if he hit his flush but he wouldn't be knocked out if he didn't, was I wrong in taking the risk? Was he right to push all-in because of this, and was I wrong to call? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Here it is:

Seat 1 - HITTHATFLUSH $7190 in chips
Seat 2 - FURKNEE $1885 in chips
Seat 3 - STYROFOAM $3490 in chips
Seat 4 - CRAZYCHEESE $3450 in chips
Seat 5 - MUFFLERMAN $2910 in chips
Seat 6 - DENOUEMENT $2470 in chips
Seat 7 - ZOEYANNE $1440 in chips
Seat 8 - RAYHAY $2600 in chips
Seat 9 - YADDY $4135 in chips
HITTHATFLUSH - Post small blind $40
FURKNEE - Post big blind $80
DENOUEMENT - Pocket [Ks,Jd]
STYROFOAM - Calls $80
CRAZYCHEESE - Folds
MUFFLERMAN - Folds
DENOUEMENT - Calls $80
ZOEYANNE - Folds (Timeout)
RAYHAY - Folds
YADDY - Folds
HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $40
FURKNEE - Checks
*** FLOP [Qh,Kh,Qs] ***
HITTHATFLUSH - Checks (Timeout)
FURKNEE - Checks
STYROFOAM - Checks
DENOUEMENT - Bets $400
HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $400 (Timeout)
FURKNEE - Folds
STYROFOAM - Calls $400
*** TURN [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s] ***
HITTHATFLUSH - All-In $6710 (Timeout)
STYROFOAM - Folds
DENOUEMENT - All-In $1990
HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($4720) : not called
HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($0) : not called
*** RIVER [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h] ***
HITTHATFLUSH - Calls (Timeout)
DENOUEMENT - Calls
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($5500)
Board [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h]
HITTHATFLUSH - Total ($5500) All-In HI$5500)Flush, king high [3h,5h - B:Kh,B:Qh,B:8h,P:5h,P:3h]
FURKNEE - Folded on the FLOP
STYROFOAM - Folded on the TURN
CRAZYCHEESE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MUFFLERMAN - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
DENOUEMENT - HI:Two pair, kings and queens [Ks,Jd - P:Ks,B:Kh,B:Qs,B:Qh,P:Jd]
ZOEYANNE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
RAYHAY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
YADDY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Assumming you thought you had a good read, and it seems you did, you were a 3:1 favorite at the turn betting into a 1.7:1 pot. Those are great odds with a good payout.
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